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Fuck Oxfam

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DismantledKing · 05/06/2023 21:55

Anyone seen the tweet by Maya tonight about this little animation by Oxfam? Here’s the link:

https://twitter.com/mforstater/status/1665817901327085568?s=46&t=U7-xooKExwmFQ8mivn72lw

as I said, fuck Oxfam.

Fuck Oxfam
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PotteringPondering · 06/06/2023 10:03

refreshingseahorse · 06/06/2023 09:48

It's worth reporting the video to YouTube as well as complaining to Oxfam

Good thought. Can be done by clicking the three dots under the video > Report.

BabyStopCryin · 06/06/2023 10:02

@tactum - what did they say?

tactum · 06/06/2023 10:00

I volunteered in an Oxfam shop and have told them this morning where to stick my help. I regret staying for as long as I did - selfishly I enjoyed it. I've already made enquiries about using my time to help a more local based charity, where my effort won't be used to fund this horrific material

ArabeIIaScott · 06/06/2023 09:59

Oxfam in my town really struggles to get volunteers - they keep reducing the hours the shop is open.

It's starting to look like a company that is on a downward spiral, tbh.

What a shame for a once-great charity.

WandaWomblesaurus · 06/06/2023 09:54

Donate to Lumos instead. Oxfam are rape enablers.

www.wearelumos.org/

Zeugma · 06/06/2023 09:53

It’s an utter disgrace. I buy occasionally from my local Oxfam bookshop - in a prosperous town, where all the staff are older and I suspect have zero awareness of any notion of being warriors for gender ideology; I expect they think they’re aiding the fight against poverty. Most of them are - horrors ! - white middle-class women over retirement age, so the lowest of the low according to Oxfam. But of course good enough to exploit their free labour.

I won’t be spending any money there again and I’ll suggest to DH that he doesn’t either.

BabyStopCryin · 06/06/2023 09:48

My husband isn’t a great ‘boycotter’. After all the Haiti news came out we were walking past a local store and I stopped because something caught my eye - he said ‘no way are they getting a penny’ and kept walking.

I actually thought they would have got their act together but time and time again they have doubles down (mothergate, staff bullying, taking a ‘great women’ card game off the shelves because the women were all women, now this…). How can anyone support them now.

My sister worked for an international charity and she told me that there was two type of people - those who would literally walk into HO offering to give blood or the last change in their pockets when a disaster occurred and volunteers who would be knee deep in blood and mud, then there were those desperately posturing to get an honour. She was absolutely disillusioned.

refreshingseahorse · 06/06/2023 09:48

It's worth reporting the video to YouTube as well as complaining to Oxfam

dimorphism · 06/06/2023 09:47

BabyStopCryin · 06/06/2023 09:42

It was made in India for oxfam international - not sure, but lawyers will be looking at it no doubt. It is a hateful piece of work. Wonder how much it cost?

Let's hope it'll cost them a lot more, both in actual legal fees (I really hope some volunteers take legal action over the discrimination they've suffered from this) and also lost donations.

They really should be stripped of charitable status. Haiti then this, they need to be stopped.

ArabeIIaScott · 06/06/2023 09:42

DrBlackbird · 06/06/2023 08:30

That was a horrific article. So very Orwellian. Going by what ‘Maria’ said, she never actually made any trans related comments other than to ask for evidence of JKR’s transphobia. She, apparently, never tried to even argue that sex is immutable. Just spoke about freedom of speech (ironically).

Yet Oxfam seemed to frame the whole investigation as if she was another MF and the only issue was that the process wasn’t handled properly eg We believe that each member of our community has a right to their own religious or philosophical beliefs, including the belief that ‘sex is immutable’ and ‘sex is important’. We acknowledge that in dealing with your case and during the disciplinary process we made mistakes. We are sorry for the procedural mistakes we made in the handling of this case Nothing at all about the valid and bigger questions about censorship and why discuss banning JKR and not any other authors?

It is so illustrative and so worrying how easily and how fully captured are any and all liberal and ‘progressive’ people and organisations, from individuals in health and education policy to whole scale countries. This ideology surely could not have taken root so quickly and so comprehensively if it wasn’t on the back of dark undercurrents of misogyny. Still, I cannot understand my intelligent feminist colleagues who also adhere to TWAW. They are not misogynists. Or friends who are doctors. They are intelligent people.

Absolutely chilling article.

BabyStopCryin · 06/06/2023 09:42

Datun · 06/06/2023 09:39

A judge has called the term TERF a slur. Surely that film is a violation of the equality act. What volunteer of theirs would dare say anything after that film?

And what horror allowed a statement about feminism perpetuating male violence, and bad men shouldn't be locked up, whilst their volunteers rape the girls they're sent to protect.

I hope the papers go absolutely mad on this.

It was made in India for oxfam international - not sure, but lawyers will be looking at it no doubt. It is a hateful piece of work. Wonder how much it cost?

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 06/06/2023 09:42

HeddaGarbled · 06/06/2023 09:10

It’s a charity full of pedophiles and rapists

Well, obviously, it’s not. We can be angry about specific issues without that sort of hyperbole.

When you blame women (white, or otherwise) for violence committed by men, while ignoring the men committing the actual violence, you are - as an organisation - enabling rape and paedophilia.

When you produce material aimed at shaming and silencing older women who speak up for the safeguarding of girls and of all gender non-conforming kids, you are - as an organisation - enabling rape and paedophilia.

When you force out a woman who questions your policies, and whip up a mob of her colleagues to bully her, you are silencing freedom of expression and enabling abuses of all kinds, including rape and paedophilia.

Datun · 06/06/2023 09:39

And Yes that's obviously J. K. Rowling. Let's hope she's firing off an email to her lawyer as we speak.

Datun · 06/06/2023 09:39

A judge has called the term TERF a slur. Surely that film is a violation of the equality act. What volunteer of theirs would dare say anything after that film?

And what horror allowed a statement about feminism perpetuating male violence, and bad men shouldn't be locked up, whilst their volunteers rape the girls they're sent to protect.

I hope the papers go absolutely mad on this.

dimorphism · 06/06/2023 09:25

HeddaGarbled · 06/06/2023 09:10

It’s a charity full of pedophiles and rapists

Well, obviously, it’s not. We can be angry about specific issues without that sort of hyperbole.

It's a charity which ENABLES paedophiles and rapists.

And has some alleged paedophiles and rapists who have worked there

There, fixed it.

With that ridiculous waffle about white women shouldn't report rapes or men be prosecuted for it, you can't really deny that. And they completely failed to investigate allegations of a 12 year old being raped by one of their workers. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/oxfam-child-abuse-haiti-scandal-inquiry-sexual-exploitation-charity-commission-a8953566.html

So, were they really helping Haitian people when they were there or just making the situation worse?

I mean really, who doesn't investigate allegations a 12 year old has been raped? A charity who doesn't see women and girls as human, that's who.

maddiemookins16mum · 06/06/2023 09:21

TrainedByCats · 05/06/2023 22:00

Wow isn’t this is the charity where their male aid workers were forcing women needing support in Haiti into prostitution

Hence I will never donate to them. Tbf, I never did anyway, lived in Oxford for years and had a pal who worked there, they wasted so much money on stuff it was shocking.

AgathaSpencerGregson · 06/06/2023 09:18

AgathaSpencerGregson · 06/06/2023 09:17

I hope you told them, and the reasons why?

Oops that was meant to be in response to those saying they’d cancelled their regular donations!

AgathaSpencerGregson · 06/06/2023 09:17

I hope you told them, and the reasons why?

mumda · 06/06/2023 09:14

Is there anything the charity commission could deal with?

HeddaGarbled · 06/06/2023 09:10

It’s a charity full of pedophiles and rapists

Well, obviously, it’s not. We can be angry about specific issues without that sort of hyperbole.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 06/06/2023 09:08

DrBlackbird · 06/06/2023 09:05

However, the main Oxfam account is happily retweeting all the other countries that did tweet it. And the comments are all still open. They are very proud of their production.

https://twitter.com/oxfam/status/1664059400632381441?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

There’s one determined poster defending Oxfam ’Evil Bee’ but not getting quite so many likes. A complete derail but can anyone explain the significance of the ‘bee’ for trans women? I’ve noticed this a few times now.

I can think of a few analogies with who does the actual work in a beehive, but they would probably get me banned..

DrBlackbird · 06/06/2023 09:05

However, the main Oxfam account is happily retweeting all the other countries that did tweet it. And the comments are all still open. They are very proud of their production.

https://twitter.com/oxfam/status/1664059400632381441?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

There’s one determined poster defending Oxfam ’Evil Bee’ but not getting quite so many likes. A complete derail but can anyone explain the significance of the ‘bee’ for trans women? I’ve noticed this a few times now.

https://twitter.com/oxfam/status/1664059400632381441?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

ShimmeringShirts · 06/06/2023 09:05

It’s a charity full of pedophiles and rapists, they warrant nothing more than disgust and ignoring.

Izzy24 · 06/06/2023 08:59

PronounssheRa · 06/06/2023 07:05

Misogynistic and racist. Well done oxfam.

I can't boycott because I haven't give them a penny since I found out about the sexual abuse in Haiti.

Also agist