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Fuck Oxfam

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DismantledKing · 05/06/2023 21:55

Anyone seen the tweet by Maya tonight about this little animation by Oxfam? Here’s the link:

https://twitter.com/mforstater/status/1665817901327085568?s=46&t=U7-xooKExwmFQ8mivn72lw

as I said, fuck Oxfam.

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MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 06/06/2023 10:44

MishyJDI · 06/06/2023 10:40

Well having read the vitriol in this thread and on twitter, have to hand it to Oxfam for calling out the anti LGBT hate and standing strong. Ethics over profits. Rare in this say and age. I'll certainly be shopping more there given their inclusion, and I dont feel as a woman excluded. Far from it.

Nice to see inclusion extending to child rapists.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 06/06/2023 10:43

IcakethereforeIam · 06/06/2023 10:37

Pp have mentioned the similarity between nazi era anti semitic caricatures and this. Someone on twitter posted a side by side comparison and...omg!

There is no way that isn't a deliberate comparison.

RoyalCorgi · 06/06/2023 10:43

Poor Mishy thinks that women calling out hate is hateful.

I don't want to be unkind, Mishy, but you're really not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you?

Izzy24 · 06/06/2023 10:43

Treaclemine · 06/06/2023 10:29

I've been hanging on, thinking that they would attempt to improve what has hardly been an image in keeping with the Quaker origins, and because the lovely ancient hags in my local shop do a brilliant job, and it's the only charity shop for miles. But I've printed off that comparison between the drawing and JKR's image as a summary of what has done it, and intend to say about the rape silence training, and backing mastectomy and take it in instead of the books and the bubblewrap I was taking in today, and write this thread's and the twitter thread's addresses on the back.

What I find curious about the posts there from TRAs is the utter belief that they are right. They aren't being nasty for the sake of it, they are writing from another universe, in which the world is as they believe and not as it is. Read too many of them, and one can find oneself questioning one's own beliefs. But looking at that picture brings one back to reality. They look at Rowling, and they see that, and think we see that in our mirrors. Evil Bee explains that.

Great post. (Casual agism too).

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 06/06/2023 10:42

ArabeIIaScott · 06/06/2023 09:59

Oxfam in my town really struggles to get volunteers - they keep reducing the hours the shop is open.

It's starting to look like a company that is on a downward spiral, tbh.

What a shame for a once-great charity.

After the Haiti reports I noticed our local branch had reduced its hours because they couldn't get volunteers. I boycotted them for the Haiti affair and because when I lugged in a big bag of donations the woman behind the counter moaned about 'not more books!'

BHF were grateful for them, though.

BabyStopCryin · 06/06/2023 10:41

Yeah right. You have eyes?

MishyJDI · 06/06/2023 10:40

Well having read the vitriol in this thread and on twitter, have to hand it to Oxfam for calling out the anti LGBT hate and standing strong. Ethics over profits. Rare in this say and age. I'll certainly be shopping more there given their inclusion, and I dont feel as a woman excluded. Far from it.

YesYesAllGood · 06/06/2023 10:40

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Familiar?

IcakethereforeIam · 06/06/2023 10:37

Pp have mentioned the similarity between nazi era anti semitic caricatures and this. Someone on twitter posted a side by side comparison and...omg!

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Fuck Oxfam
Maerchentante · 06/06/2023 10:34

BoreOfWhabylon · 05/06/2023 23:31

It's racist as all hell, with the demonised Chinese and Japanese caricatures
as well as this

My first thought was that the woman with the "Terf" sticker looks like a caricature of JKR.

I have to move soon and will have a good clear out, Oxfam will not get a single item. Lots of it will go to a local Hospice charity that cared for two friends last year or a charity that runs the local food bank and homelessness outreach.

It's quite simple, if they label me as a "Terf" they can do without my donations or purchases.

IcakethereforeIam · 06/06/2023 10:31

I wonder if they'll repost it with the 'terf' picture removed or edited?

PronounssheRa · 06/06/2023 10:30

They have deleted the tweet

RoyalCorgi · 06/06/2023 10:30

This is deeply worrying. It demonstrates just how fully captured the charity sector is. It's possible that the organisation has simply gone unthinkingly along with Stonewall training, but it seems more likely to me that Oxfam, along with other major charities, has been deliberately infiltrated by extremists.

How else to explain the degree of hate levelled at gender-critical women? Or the vicious policing of dissent, as described by the woman in the Unherd article? It seems that Oxfam, like other charities whose service users are vulnerable women and children, is deliberately pushing an ideology designed to harm exactly those people it is supposed to be supporting.

ResisterRex · 06/06/2023 10:29

It's been taken down?

twitter.com/oxfam/status/1666008964276862976?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

"We have removed the post because of concerns raised with us. We will re-post shortly #ProtectThePride"

But soon to go back up?

Clear as mud then!

Treaclemine · 06/06/2023 10:29

I've been hanging on, thinking that they would attempt to improve what has hardly been an image in keeping with the Quaker origins, and because the lovely ancient hags in my local shop do a brilliant job, and it's the only charity shop for miles. But I've printed off that comparison between the drawing and JKR's image as a summary of what has done it, and intend to say about the rape silence training, and backing mastectomy and take it in instead of the books and the bubblewrap I was taking in today, and write this thread's and the twitter thread's addresses on the back.

What I find curious about the posts there from TRAs is the utter belief that they are right. They aren't being nasty for the sake of it, they are writing from another universe, in which the world is as they believe and not as it is. Read too many of them, and one can find oneself questioning one's own beliefs. But looking at that picture brings one back to reality. They look at Rowling, and they see that, and think we see that in our mirrors. Evil Bee explains that.

worrieddragon · 06/06/2023 10:27

I'm ashamed now that after the Haiti scandal I not only stuck with my direct debit, I went into the shop with flowers and a card for the volunteers to say that while what had happened was dreadful, I had faith in the organisation to examine itself and improve, and I wanted to continue to support the good work they were doing. I knew how upsetting it must have been for the volunteers, dedicating their time to a cause and seeing these revelations. I feel an absolute fool now. Oxfam proudly states that it considers concerns over women and girls' safety as motivated by hate. You really can't do any kind of safeguarding in such an environment.

I think the charity sector is a huge part of why society has become so politically polarised. Charities have leant into incredibly polarising positions and language, suggesting that people who don't agree are Very Bad, as opposed to focusing on the issues, and packaging issues up in the guise of 'intersectionality', so if you believe X, then you must believe all kinds of other things from the Right On handbook. And if you're don't, you're one of the Bad People.

Making people angry is much more effective at galvanising activity than trying to find common ground, or bridge-building language. I think people are starting to notice, and starting to be alienated, but the only discussion within the sector is about how charities are 'under attack' from a government that wants to suppress the right to protest. And they are... but there's no self-examination whatsoever about how charities might have contributed to this situation.

HectorPlasm · 06/06/2023 10:25

We've been having a major clear out, getting rid of loads of good stuff. Oxfam get nothing from me - neither do the others who choose to constantly lecture me on why I am so bad for this world and should apologise for breathing. Cancer Research and Age Concern received lots of stuff instead.

JulesJules · 06/06/2023 10:24

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MorrisZapp · 06/06/2023 10:23

On the plus side this discussion has brought us the marvellous word 'fundrose', well done OldGardinia!

MorrisZapp · 06/06/2023 10:18

I'm a charity shop obsessive yet I haven't set foot in Oxfam for many years. I always used to think they priced their second hand goods too high, and I felt a general sense of being lectured to that I didn't like.

I feel fully vindicated now. They are hateful, misogynist, child harming bastards and they don't care who knows it. Their poor volunteers, those shops are staffed by local people with entirely good intentions.

Why is everything so utterly shit now? I could just cry.

dimorphism · 06/06/2023 10:06

tactum · 06/06/2023 10:00

I volunteered in an Oxfam shop and have told them this morning where to stick my help. I regret staying for as long as I did - selfishly I enjoyed it. I've already made enquiries about using my time to help a more local based charity, where my effort won't be used to fund this horrific material

Well done. I hope you find a great fit with somewhere which values your work and I hope other volunteers follow.

ChristinaXYZ · 06/06/2023 10:06

I can't stop donating because I already cancelled my regular one after the Haiti scandal. Then there was that document blaming "privileged white women" over the root causes of sexual violence (see here by Julie Bindle and others https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/09/oxfam-training-guide-blames-privileged-white-women-root-causes/

And now this.

Oxfam really, really hate women.

Oxfam training guide blames ‘privileged white women’ over root causes of sexual violence

Plus: Feminist writer Julie Bindel ponders 'if a war is being declared against feminism'

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/09/oxfam-training-guide-blames-privileged-white-women-root-causes

Zita60 · 06/06/2023 10:06

ArabeIIaScott · 06/06/2023 09:59

Oxfam in my town really struggles to get volunteers - they keep reducing the hours the shop is open.

It's starting to look like a company that is on a downward spiral, tbh.

What a shame for a once-great charity.

Same with my local Oxfam too. I wonder if it's a result of the Haiti scandal?