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Fuck Oxfam

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DismantledKing · 05/06/2023 21:55

Anyone seen the tweet by Maya tonight about this little animation by Oxfam? Here’s the link:

https://twitter.com/mforstater/status/1665817901327085568?s=46&t=U7-xooKExwmFQ8mivn72lw

as I said, fuck Oxfam.

Fuck Oxfam
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StormShadow · 08/06/2023 07:34

BabyStopCryin · 08/06/2023 07:17

I wonder who it was who suggested using JKR as the model for this image - was it the agency or someone who was briefing them? Who did the artwork - did they realise who it was or did they think they could ‘get away’ with it and it would be their ‘in joke’? Is this agency really ‘woman led’? Or are they going to blame over zealous interns?

The upshot is - someone wrote the brief and had numerous meetings with the agency at each stage. They approved the visuals, the theme, the storyboard, the content, the final cut.

People in Oxfam will have seen the artwork in progress and probably many versions of the film as it was being produced. It would have then been presented in its final form for approval. Chances are it will have been circulated internally before it was launched.

Yes I’ve worked client side, and know that there are many opportunities to catch ‘problematic’ content - so can only assume those at Oxfam who were responsible for commissioning this and approved it were absolutely pushing and agenda.

So many opportunities for someone with half a brain to say ‘so much over the top melodrama, so much hatred and insults…’

Additionally, it should really be someone's job at some point in the process to check whether something looks a bit Nazi.

BabyStopCryin · 08/06/2023 07:17

I wonder who it was who suggested using JKR as the model for this image - was it the agency or someone who was briefing them? Who did the artwork - did they realise who it was or did they think they could ‘get away’ with it and it would be their ‘in joke’? Is this agency really ‘woman led’? Or are they going to blame over zealous interns?

The upshot is - someone wrote the brief and had numerous meetings with the agency at each stage. They approved the visuals, the theme, the storyboard, the content, the final cut.

People in Oxfam will have seen the artwork in progress and probably many versions of the film as it was being produced. It would have then been presented in its final form for approval. Chances are it will have been circulated internally before it was launched.

Yes I’ve worked client side, and know that there are many opportunities to catch ‘problematic’ content - so can only assume those at Oxfam who were responsible for commissioning this and approved it were absolutely pushing and agenda.

So many opportunities for someone with half a brain to say ‘so much over the top melodrama, so much hatred and insults…’

StormShadow · 08/06/2023 06:17

I should imagine the hordes of fuming people cancelling their direct debits and even legacies in their wills, absolutely suggest that the public have lost confidence in the charity.

And while this won't be visible, there'll be plenty of us who have nothing to cancel because we withdrew support due to Oxfams previous conduct, but who've still clocked the misogyny and antisemitism inherent here.

Motnight · 08/06/2023 06:02

seXX · 07/06/2023 23:42

The BBC article posted earlier (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65831823) had this line: "Rowling has spoken against allowing trans people access to single-sex spaces." I emailed to point out this was incorrect and I see it's been changed to "Rowling has spoken against allowing trans women access to women-only spaces."

Considering the topic of the article, it's a bit sneaky to correct it without acknowledging the edit anywhere.

Well done on challenging that @sseXX .

Datun · 08/06/2023 00:15

ResisterRex · 07/06/2023 22:27

From the same article:

"The Charity Commission said it was assessing the complaints in the context of its regulatory and risk framework, which requires it to take action if it considers a charity has undermined public trust and confidence in the charity sector."

A lot of ifs, however, if that ends up being an investigation and if it goes against Oxfam, there are other charities that'll need to take note.

I should imagine the hordes of fuming people cancelling their direct debits and even legacies in their wills, absolutely suggest that the public have lost confidence in the charity.

The sector in general. With people assuming that the top brass in these charities are just milking them.

seXX · 07/06/2023 23:42

The BBC article posted earlier (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65831823) had this line: "Rowling has spoken against allowing trans people access to single-sex spaces." I emailed to point out this was incorrect and I see it's been changed to "Rowling has spoken against allowing trans women access to women-only spaces."

Considering the topic of the article, it's a bit sneaky to correct it without acknowledging the edit anywhere.

JK Rowling attends "Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes Of Grindelwald" World Premiere at UGC Cine Cite Bercy on November 8, 2018 in Paris, France

JK Rowling: Oxfam sorry for video after 'cartoon JK Rowling' accusation

It denies a character with red eyes and a "Terf" badge is based on Rowling but re-edits the animation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65831823

ChristinaXYZ · 07/06/2023 23:18

I see #OxfamHatesWomen is gaining some traction on twitter.

I hope they are squirming.

I hope they have had volunteers resign.

I hope that have had lots of direct debits stopped.

I hope the postie covering their HQ has had to take up weight lift because of the complaints.

I hope this keeeps going because it has been too much for too long from Oxfam. It is not the odd root and branch, the whole plant is riddled with misogyny.

And I hope lots of other good charities actually doing what they're supposed to do, instead of virtue signalling and bullying people, get lots more money instead.

GailBlancheViola · 07/06/2023 23:11

The 6 million dollar question @JanesLittleGirl .

Remarkable how they know which sex to use and abuse and also which sex they need to volunteer in all their shops and do all the tedious, boring stuff - empowering women yeah right.

JanesLittleGirl · 07/06/2023 23:06

Were the guys who indulged in rape and forced prostitution in Haiti and DRC fucking women and girls or people who identified as women and girls?

DerekFaker · 07/06/2023 22:56

Helleofabore · 07/06/2023 22:45

That is a fake though.

Oh right, so it is! Silly me.

GailBlancheViola · 07/06/2023 22:49

Oxfam should never have survived the sexual assault and rape that their workers indulged in in Haiti and Chad, they tefloned away from that, none of those workers faced criminal charges and the man in charge was allowed to resign.

Somehow those doing the assaulting and raping were very aware of the sex of those they wished to rape and assault, those poor girls and women could not identify out of it. How ironic the Guardian picture had Empowering Women in their headline, aid workers raping them is empowering is it Oxfam?

Helleofabore · 07/06/2023 22:45

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That is a fake though.

DerekFaker · 07/06/2023 22:43

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Helleofabore · 07/06/2023 22:40

Either way, the fact that Oxfam might get away with this doesn’t mean others would. And the fact that the charity commission is taking it seriously, should be enough to stop other organisations from doing a similar fucked up campaign.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 07/06/2023 22:39

Even if it doesn't get that far, just the fact that they are having to think about whether Oxfam has 'undermined public trust and confidence in the charity sector' is pretty big. No charity of that size[1] should be doing anything that even makes that a question.

[1] No charity of any size should, but particularly one big enough to have a full time comms and.policy departments, and in-house lawyers.

Cashycashy · 07/06/2023 22:33

Bloody hell WTAF are Oxfam thinking? I’ll avoid them like the plague in future.

Such a biased and dangerous approach.

Thinking about it - id rather support local charities anyway.

ResisterRex · 07/06/2023 22:27

Heliotroper · 07/06/2023 22:22

" The UK charities watchdog is assessing whether it will take action against Oxfam after receiving complaints about a cartoon published by the charity that ignited a row about transgender issues."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/07/oxfam-pride-month-cartoon-charities-watchdog

From the same article:

"The Charity Commission said it was assessing the complaints in the context of its regulatory and risk framework, which requires it to take action if it considers a charity has undermined public trust and confidence in the charity sector."

A lot of ifs, however, if that ends up being an investigation and if it goes against Oxfam, there are other charities that'll need to take note.

KalimbaMoon · 07/06/2023 22:27

Interesting choice of image to accompany the article.

NeverTrustAPoliceman · 07/06/2023 19:50

I'm not daft. Of course I have written to Oxfam. A first class letter to HQ and another letter hand delivered to the local shop.

Croneofakind · 07/06/2023 19:28

MerlinsLostMarbles · 07/06/2023 00:31

The message includes the flag with the trans colours. That's bad, right?

Why do you think that's bad? Are you a transphobe?

TheLemon · 07/06/2023 19:21

JK Rowling: Oxfam sorry for video after 'cartoon JK Rowling' accusation www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65831823

Backpedaling from Oxfam.