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Cbeebies

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runravenrun · 04/06/2023 21:49

Did anyone else have cbeebies on this morning? During one of the segments between cartoons, the dog puppet gave a little spiel about (paraphrasing) how amazing clownfish are because they can change gender, and apparently there's another type of fish too that changes from male to female as it gets older, blah blah blah, isn't nature amazing!

I forget some of the details, but I noticed the "clownfish change their gender" line because it just struck me as wrong. Like, I've heard about clownfish changing their sex before, but they surely don't have a gender identity to change.

Anyway, just wondering if anyone else saw this, and also what people make of it. Obviously the clownfish thing is a trans talking point, which I'm kind of ambivalent about. I'm guessing this is part of the BBC's pride programming, and in principle I am ok with fact-based 'here are different families, people, etc.'-level stuff, but I'm also uncomfortable with the insertion of gender. When plenty of adults can't agree on how universal 'gender identity' is, it seems a bit bold to be introducing it as fact on cbeebies. Is this just me?

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ArabeIIaScott · 04/06/2023 22:03

I was honestly going to say the clip was fine, it was just about fish, until it dropped the gender bomb.

Since when did clownfish have a bloody gender identity? Get to fuck, CBeebies.

mogtheexcellent · 04/06/2023 22:03

Ffs. Thankfully DD to old for cbeebies and i only allow streaming of tv shows now.

MrsJamin · 04/06/2023 22:01

I found the video on twitter https://twitter.com/sion___jones/status/1665293028448149504 - oh my days! The implication is transgenderism for preschool kids!

https://twitter.com/sion___jones/status/1665293028448149504?s=19&t=lq6wAzzWU1PTFamFk5mhKA

runravenrun · 04/06/2023 21:57

Thanks for the link!

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Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 21:55

People are not happy on Twitter. Some poor sod at the BBC will be going through a lot of complaints in the morning!