War over trans lobby is manna for the right - Matthew Parris

Oh fgs - stop talking about it & it will all go away? oh yes womens rights & protections will be toast if we do that but hey who cares about the support humans

if only women hadn’t made such an annoying vocal fuss about our rights being trampled on by entitled men who believe they have lady feelings

I think he has sadly become more solipsistic in general.

And he unequivocally stands by Janice Turner.

Most of the rest of it is just flim flam - a mixture of the obvious and whimsical musings about all sides being bonkers without specifying why. This does not lead to much beyond making him look a bit of a twit.

He's got a point: it is manna for the right, because the left have gone insane on the issue.

They will seize this opportunity because that's what politics is about. And I'm glad because it needs to be challenged because it's dangerous.

Yes there is now a war being slugged out in the media for us to all watch and cheer and boo. But 2 years ago the media wouldn't talk about this at all.

Maybe it's all a bit unedifying, maybe some people seem to be enjoying the 'calling out' a bit too much both ways, but it's necessary. This is how people get to hear what's happening, this is how people not in the centre get to understand what it means, this is how people get to realise that how they vote impacts this issue.

He seems to be complaining really that politics is a bit of performance played out in the media.
Well yes Matthew well done for noticing.

It's all a bit distasteful isn't it? Did you only notice this once you stopped being a Tory MP? And became...a political commentator??
Pot. Kettle. Black.

Such as this one. But I agree, this latest piece makes it seem as if we should all just ignore the issues.

To be fair Matthew P. has written past columns denouncing Stonewall because of their trans insanity.

What a prick.

Bev Jackson - assuming it's actually her - has commented underneath:

"Finally we hear what Matthew Parris really thinks. Yes let’s stop fussing about the tens of thousands of girls who are having their breasts surgically removed because of internalized homophobia - or simply because they hope they can escape from womanhood. Let’s not go on about the frightened women prisoners (often victims of sexual violence) locked up with males. Let’s not make a big deal about the women and girl athletes whose dreams are being crushed. Do you see a pattern here? Stop exaggerating, everyone. It will blow over soon enough."

Quite an interesting article, Litterpicking. I guess it helps to see a more nuanced view of where he’s coming from. He’s battled for his own rights, successfully, and now (understandably) resents the fact that he, and those who have won their battle for acceptance, have now been dragged back into a very different battle, that is proving to be much more troublesome and which looks much less likely to have a positive outcome. I absolutely have sympathy for any lesbian and gay people who can see that the niche of acceptance they had carved out for themselves is now under threat.

But of course, women’s rights are also under threat. Sweeping this under the carpet and waiting for the fad for transgenderism (which genuinely is a fad on one level) won’t work for women because the undermining of women’s rights, that has gone hand in hand with that fad, goes too deep and is of such significance that women cannot ignore it.

So I guess it’s understandable that he wants it all to go away. The day that Stonewall stopped fighting for lesbian and gay rights and dragged lesbian and gay people into a fight to remove women’s rights, was a hugely bad day for us all.

Back on May 22nd 2021, Matthew Parris wrote a column in The Times to say that he didn't think that Stonewall (of which he was a founder member) should have not taken up the trans issue "and was mired in an issue that wasn't its concern". (Sorry I don't know how to get it out from behind the paywall!) Article

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4972efe4-ba6d-11eb-98e3-d1306649ebf7?shareToken=7079a8eb9d584f891402007d41c89fae

Matthew Parris was a Tory MP!

He appears to have completely missed the hugely significant problem of swingeing legal changes that will remove women’s rights. Another ignorant man.

The comments are astonishing in their unity. I don't disagree with much of what he says, though I accept there is more to be done than ignoring it.

And for the rest, stop thinking about it, stop talking about it, it will finally go away, and later generations will wonder what came over us.

It wasnt talked about for years while it was quietly implemented into schools, colleges, nhs, the police....

We have to talk about it to have any chance of stopping the next man to be place into the womens prison if he requests it.

Not talking about it doesnt stop it, it just allows those not effected to pretend it isnt happening.

This is one of the best things I've read.

Why doesn't he ask his Stonewall co-founder Simon Fanshawe what he thinks? Simon has spoken up clearly and consistently about the effect of trans demands on gay people, women and on free speech in society.

You would have thought that an actual serving Tory MP coming out as trans would have been enough to take it off the table as a left-right issue.

But no. Still a few enablers repeating the lie that "at least the Tories know what a woman is".

Sunak could do more. But Starmer could take it off the table as a left/right issue. Gender ideology should have no place in mainstream politics or discourse.

Sunak, as leader of the actual government (I know, hard to keep track) has the power to turn it around.

Hasn't done so yet.

After how many years of Tories presiding over all this?

He's pretty much saying what JKR said the other day. The left are making utter fools of themselves and the right are making hay while the sun shines.

A few years ago, an avid Tory of my acquaintance, gloated: "oh we love Jeremy Corbyn."

Starmer and that Libdem man's support for this utter nonsense is manna for the Conservatives.

BUT, and it's a big one, Matthew Parris doesn't have school aged children being marinated in lies. It does need to be stood up to. And Starmer, as leader of the mainstream left, has the power to turn it around. Is he man enough though?

Although it does fortuitously fit your comment too.

Well. Be in no doubt. That was a lot of pompous huffing and puffing.

No worries (I did wonder for a moment though)

Sorry, dropthevipers, I meant to quote DemiColon.