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AnotherDayAnotherView · 02/06/2023 10:39

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BettyFilous · 04/06/2023 11:03

DH told me this morning that the Canadian father’s story in Matt Walsh’s film left him really unsettled and uneasy. For anyone who hasn’t watched it, the 13 year old daughter was started on the medicalised route by the State against the father’s wishes after a legal battle and the father was (at the time of filming) awaiting trial for misgendering his daughter under a charge equivalent to beating your child. DH said he had no idea how far it had gone in Canada. I said Canada isn’t alone and explained California’s sanctuary state proposals. It’s really upset him. He says a parent’s job is to stand between their child and harm. He finds the idea that the state can override the parents’ concerns troubling. He was already gender critical but I think Matt Walsh’s documentary finally, decisively peaked him - and we’ve been talking about this issue since 2016.

ScrollingLeaves · 04/06/2023 10:51

🚨Must see!
Free this weekend
Bump

MavisMcMinty · 04/06/2023 09:45

Appalonia · 04/06/2023 07:47

Babylon Bee have just released a fantastic, thought provoking documentary, "What is a Man?" Well worth watching..!
https://twitter.com/stclairashley/status/1665152862542766081?s=19

Ha ha ha! Excellent.

NeedToKnow101 · 04/06/2023 09:36

I dreamt I was friends with Elon Musk last night and he was asking my advice about something 😂. Also watched most of What is a woman? It's simply insane the direction 'we' have taken.

ScrollingLeaves · 04/06/2023 09:28

Shouldn’t this film be on AIBU somehow, perhaps under a thread relating to aspects of modern American society, ( so it doesn’t stay hidden in ‘gender’)?

ScrollingLeaves · 04/06/2023 09:21

PaleBlueMoonlight · Today 08:13

PurpleBugz · Today 06:49

@ScrollingLeaves

"Similarly, I was disappointed by the way he answered the question ‘What is a woman’ by showing his feminine looking wife cooking, then asking him, as the strong man, to help open a jar."

Yeah that bit really pissed me off!

I worry that to fight against the trans movement for our kids we will end up more people coming out the other side expecting more traditional roles from people men and women. And as always women will suffered

But the answer.to the question given at the end was not "his wife", but "adult human female" (said by his wife). Which is 100% correct. And how can the fact his wife looks like many a typical women looks be a negative for the film?

The thing about the answer to the question is that it is actually really hard to answer off the cuff not because the answer is not agreed, but because it is so obvious and known instinctly by all that (until recently) it barely ever had to be articulated. The star wars man demonstrated that beautifully.

I am not sure about the opening sequences. Whilst I know Matt Walsh supports a traditional family structure and believes (as do I) that there are there are traits that are more typical of one sex than the other, and it may be that he sees no harm in the pink- and blue-ification of children's lives (which I do), but I would be very surprised if he thought that girls and boys should necessarily have a particular personality or traits because of their sex. Rather, it seems to me that the sequence was intended to set up the traditional perception of sex and gender, which then allows him to show how that idea has been warped by transactivists, before then moving on to reality and truth, what that means and how important it is as a foundation to any discussion.

You are right PaleBlueMoonlight, it’s not as though the question wasn’t answered, and he was trying to illustrate a point, with impact, in a short time, and the target audience wouldn’t be FWR Mumsnet anyway.

I was being picky. This film will do a huge amount to either peak people, or give people the courage to speak up who have been silently confused and wondering if they aren’t being duped. How shocking it is, for example, that those doctors speak complete untruths so glibly: that presumably AGP gender surgeon in a mini skirt, and that silky toned castrator! And how shocking that a University professor is a twisty tongued charlatan who cannot and will not discuss the issue.

At the same time I think the woman who is a psychiatrist, while clearly exposing the false premises on which children are routinely being dreadfully harmed, also retained sympathy for those few people who, even when they reach adulthood, can never come out of their distressing state of gender dysphoria.

PurpleBugz · 04/06/2023 08:28

Appalonia · 04/06/2023 07:47

Babylon Bee have just released a fantastic, thought provoking documentary, "What is a Man?" Well worth watching..!
https://twitter.com/stclairashley/status/1665152862542766081?s=19

😂🤣😂🤣 I just woke the baby laughing at that. Brilliant

PaleBlueMoonlight · 04/06/2023 08:13

PurpleBugz · 04/06/2023 06:49

@ScrollingLeaves

"Similarly, I was disappointed by the way he answered the question ‘What is a woman’ by showing his feminine looking wife cooking, then asking him, as the strong man, to help open a jar."

Yeah that bit really pissed me off!

I worry that to fight against the trans movement for our kids we will end up more people coming out the other side expecting more traditional roles from people men and women. And as always women will suffer

But the answer.to the question given at the end was not "his wife", but "adult human female" (said by his wife). Which is 100% correct. And how can the fact his wife looks like many a typical women looks be a negative for the film?

The thing about the answer to the question is that it is actually really hard to answer off the cuff not because the answer is not agreed, but because it is so obvious and known instinctly by all that (until recently) it barely ever had to be articulated. The star wars man demonstrated that beautifully.

I am not sure about the opening sequences. Whilst I know Matt Walsh supports a traditional family structure and believes (as do I) that there are there are traits that are more typical of one sex than the other, and it may be that he sees no harm in the pink- and blue-ification of children's lives (which I do), but I would be very surprised if he thought that girls and boys should necessarily have a particular personality or traits because of their sex. Rather, it seems to me that the sequence was intended to set up the traditional perception of sex and gender, which then allows him to show how that idea has been warped by transactivists, before then moving on to reality and truth, what that means and how important it is as a foundation to any discussion.

Appalonia · 04/06/2023 07:47

Babylon Bee have just released a fantastic, thought provoking documentary, "What is a Man?" Well worth watching..!
https://twitter.com/stclairashley/status/1665152862542766081?s=19

https://twitter.com/stclairashley/status/1665152862542766081?s=19

PurpleBugz · 04/06/2023 06:49

@ScrollingLeaves

"Similarly, I was disappointed by the way he answered the question ‘What is a woman’ by showing his feminine looking wife cooking, then asking him, as the strong man, to help open a jar."

Yeah that bit really pissed me off!

I worry that to fight against the trans movement for our kids we will end up more people coming out the other side expecting more traditional roles from people men and women. And as always women will suffer

Wiccan · 04/06/2023 01:08

I think it was spot on . The absolute pain and suffering this ideology is causing is beyond disgusting. Qualified doctors and specialists believing in this utter crap scares the shit out of me . These people are insane . A women is an Adult Human Female always has been and always will be !

nolongersurprised · 04/06/2023 00:59

I will watch to the end in case it improves but so far I am not understanding why people think it is so great

I think it’s great because it covers a wide range of issues:

  • sport
  • the general looniness of the gender therapists, as proven by their own interviews
  • social contagion and vulnerable youth
  • the fragility of the “no debate” crew
  • it argues against “other cultures are more fluid in gender presentations” trope
  • the bullying tactics employed to stop people from questioning gender ideology
  • co morbid mental health issues in those transitioning

And yes, every point he’s made has also been made on here and more thoroughly.

But Matt Walsh is an excellent public speaker and debater. These are skills that most people don’t have and ultimately will be more effective than a 14 page thread on MN debating gender ideology. Many people can come up with brilliant replies in writing, after consideration, but most can’t debate and discuss, off the cuff, like MW can.

And no, he’s clearly not a GC, left-wing feminist 🤷‍♀️

VeryUninspired · 04/06/2023 00:23

What actually happened re this on Twitter though?

VeryUninspired · 04/06/2023 00:21

Thanks for the link, I’ve been wanting to watch this.

ScrollingLeaves · 03/06/2023 23:35

I think it shows how entrenched gender ideology in the US and Canada is, to the extent that it is socially unacceptable to question it at all to a far greater extent than is true here. It also shows that children there really are in danger.

Like another poster, I too didn’t like the beginning showing the girl in pink and the boy in blue with a gun. I thought at first he was going to use those images to mock the stereotypes but he did not comment that this was not at all necessarily typical of boys and girls. To be fair, though, he later let Jordan Petersen say there can be feminine boys and masculine girls without that meaning you need to cut them up.

Similarly, I was disappointed by the way he answered the question ‘What is a woman’ by showing his feminine looking wife cooking, then asking him, as the strong man, to help open a jar.

The Masai by contrast came out well with their answer, even though they are not chickens and they do have feelings. This begged the question what is going on with us?

I didn’t know before about children identifying as animals in school and having to be accepted according to their identities.

DemiColon · 03/06/2023 23:18

booksandbrooks · 03/06/2023 21:41

It was peculiar to see someone struggle with the idea that you can't define a word using that word.

Imagine taking on loads of debt to be taught by him?

There is a clip of Ibram X Kendi at atalk being asked to define racism, he basically says, it's things that lead to a racist outcome - this guy is an academic.

It seems like this is a problem in what sometimes get called grievance studies areas. I have started to think it's something to do with the methodology.

BettyFilous · 03/06/2023 23:01

Currently at 2.1m views. Just watched again with DH. He enjoyed it, said the therapist at the beginning was terrifying. We loved the gender studies professor - you couldn’t parody that vacuous waffle any better.

SidewaysOtter · 03/06/2023 22:29

I’m pretty new to all this stuff but I saw it earlier and cannot believe so many professionals cannot define what a woman is and are pushing this shit onto our kids. It seems to be everywhere at the moment, why is that?

It’s been flying under the radar for years, and those who tried to speak up were often howled down for being bigots, transphobes and fascists. So this ideology has had plenty of time to take root, together with lots of institutions such as charities and schools buying into it in the name of being kind and inclusive and certain other organisations putting a lot of effort into propagating the ideology (e.g. the Denton’s Playbook). But it’s reached a point where it doesn’t lurk in the shadows any more; there’s men in women’s sporting categories, detransitioners highlighting what’s been done to them, and women finally - after the Maya Forstater ruling which stated that gender critical views are protected under the Equality Act - being able to speak out. There is sunlight pouring into what’s gone on, the media are picking it up and it’s bloody brilliant.

booksandbrooks · 03/06/2023 21:41

It was peculiar to see someone struggle with the idea that you can't define a word using that word.

Imagine taking on loads of debt to be taught by him?

FullOfBiscuit · 03/06/2023 19:45

I’m pretty new to all this stuff but I saw it earlier and cannot believe so many professionals cannot define what a woman is and are pushing this shit onto our kids. It seems to be everywhere at the moment, why is that?

The uni professor came across as an absolute idiot, ‘a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman’, yes but what does the word WOMAN mean? What is this thing they want to identify as? He had no answer, he couldn’t define what a woman was without using the word woman, wth? As for the women on the women’s march, what is wrong with them? 😡

I didn’t mind the jar bit at the end, meh I often get my DH or teen DSs to open a jar for me.

CheeseDreamsTonight · 03/06/2023 19:29

Thanks for the link, brilliant documentary, so pleased I've finally seen it.

Leafstamp · 03/06/2023 18:04

Bumping in the hope just one person who wants to know more sees it in active convos.

iamenougheveryday · 03/06/2023 17:58

Bump.

IcakethereforeIam · 03/06/2023 17:20

NicolaSturgeonsSOGIbottom · 03/06/2023 12:12

I watched a hooky upload of this when it first came out and ‘Can a Chicken Cry?’ ‘Can a Chicken have a Gender Identity’ has become part of my family’s everyday lexicon.

I doubt my family would fit in at Matt’s kids’ pink and blue gender stereotype party but nonetheless, I am delighted that the Blue-Haired-Gender-Chicken-Lady scene exists.

He should have asked her if her arguments are always so poultry.

It's okay, I'm currently identifying as a coat.

Hepwo · 03/06/2023 17:17

YetAnotherSpartacus · 03/06/2023 10:26

He starts off with a loads of sexist bullshit his son only needing a BB gun for emotional support

I got this far and realised that unless it was a joke it is actually a pile of sexist and misogynist bullshit.

Yes it starts with that joke, and ends with another one from his wife asking him to open a jar. They are just laughing at the right wing cliches.

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