Boycott Target song now no.1 on iTunes

I am not sure we are the least Christian country but there certainly seems to be a trend in the UK of thinking it is acceptable to denigrate Christian’s in a way which would be considered totally unacceptable of other faiths.

Sorry but I don't see these rapture rapsters as allies.

My heart sinks whenever I see the word allies; it smacks of blindly following others - over a cliff like lemmings. Or trying to hang onto the coat tails of a group you are not part of as some sort of second class obsequious servant. I am no one’s ally and don’t want anyone to be mine. If you agree with me on something that is great and I hope you would support me when I speak up on that. I do not expect you to support me on other matters and I am sure I will be on the opposite side of the fence to you on many things.

Our country must be the least Christian in Europe. I lived in a very Christian country, this type of thing will not go down well in context with everything else.

https://twitter.com/mattxiv/status/1661889569116102657/video/1

https://safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2020/06/18/love-has-no-age-a-letter-to-asda/

Are Target like Walmart (I see Tampax and Bud light in the video)?

Walmart owned Asda when this happened.

Short interview with one of the rappers here. I think the success of this, and the Bud Light boycott just shows that pp ( and now this includes men ) have had enough!
https://twitter.com/NEWSMAX/status/1663647719993524224?s=19

GLSEN

The ESG scores are taking a battering if they don't defend enough and they have to balance that with having customers.

The vice president of brand marketing for Target who brought in the Satanic designer too - Carlos Saaverda is apparently also the treasurer of GLSE , who are pushing trans policy in schools, they sound like educate and celebrate over here and equivalent in Ireland.

(The #1 presumably objecting to the presence of the range)

From the British designer with Satanic items being sold as part of the line to be clear if you are unaware.

So Target gets a #1 song because they DID have a range of pride/trans wear, and also bomb threats because they REMOVED said range of pride/trans wear.

bet the marketing team are having a great week…

I would think most people find binding breasts and tucking a penis of a child wrong.

Then for Christians you have the Satan aspect.

Sorry but I don't see these rapture rapsters as allies.

Thats fine, you don’t have to like/agree with everyone!

The thread is just pointing out this song about boycotting Target is No 1 on iTunes.

They're also rapping about God taking revenge and in the video they show only rainbow-coloured products, not the tucking and binding garments. I'm pretty sure the creation of this song was driven by the homophobia that's so common amongst the Americochristian right. Sorry but I don't see these rapture rapsters as allies.

It's funny how the mere raising or discussion of a subject can now be taken to imply support of some stance or other, isn't it?

This is a great contributor to a narrowing of discourse, a general chilling effect over discussions of any issues that may be contentious.

Does it sound too difficult for you? Fortunately we are more than capable of managing a simple task like choosing where to shop. In this case made even easier by the absence of Target from the UK.

Does anyone remember the M&S Pride sandwich - it was early 2010s, I think. At the time it seemed to have been a jump the shark moment, and also tasted pretty yucky - I can’t remember what was in it but a successful combo of six things in bread and that has a long shelf life must be hard to achieve.

There was also one a couple of years ago that was lettuce, guacamole, bacon and tomato I think. Eyes were rolled.

The focus of the song is rightly on the targeting of kids. This will resonate will most parents, whatever their racial and social background. I assume gender woo is deep within US schools. It is good to see a high profile and catchy pushback. There is about to be a generation of detransitioners. The debate needs to happen, both about the transing of children and the support this receives from the corporate world.

You are right about Chinese factories, but it is whataboutery in that transing of children is happening now in the US including in poorer communities, and also needs to be addressed.

@MerlinsLostMarbles
Asking in good faith. Insert strawman assumption here.

Do you really believe that "companies that sell LGBT products or put up rainbow flags etc?" is what is being boycotted?
If you do then you are wrong in your assement of what is being boycotted and the reasons why, despite all the information explaining why out there. Your poor assement would indicate that its difficult to take you seriously and that it would take considerable effort to explain to you what's going on.
If you don't then your statement about good faith is knowlingly deceptive as you attempt to misrepresent a situation into a different situation because you understand how difficult it is to make a logical argument about the situation. The only way for you to support your ideological position is to misrepresent the situation via a strawman, and so that's what you do.

I doubt this will change anything but : No one gives a fuck about the gay products or flags, it's involving kids in the religion of the extreme gender borg that people object to. Stop trying to indoctrinate kids and leave the kids alone and people will stop boycotting. But we all know how difficult it is for a certain section of society to stop interfering and fiddling with the kids, it's all they want to do after all.

Does anyone remember the M&S Pride sandwich - it was early 2010s, I think. At the time it seemed to have been a jump the shark moment, and also tasted pretty yucky - I can’t remember what was in it but a successful combo of six things in bread and that has a long shelf life must be hard to achieve. But rainbow marketing without doing any hard work is always distasteful. It is simply an event on the marketing calendar and neatly fills a blank spot between Easter/summer and then the back to school push

When I was a kid I remember my mum boycotting South African produce because she didn't want her money to go to a country enforcing apartheid. There was a whole movement encouraging everyone to do this en masse in the hope of impacting the South African export economy.

How silly this whole Target squabble seems in comparison. On one hand you have a company purporting that their sale of branded goods is somehow offering support for a social cause, and on the other, people getting furious about it in way they don't bother more generally about the ills of capitalism and the plight of workers in sweatshops who made those goods.

Where were Barclays Bank when I was growing up under Section 28?

Investing in an apartheid South Africa.

Great post by the way, VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia.

I am content to leave people to their views as long as they don't interfere with the rights of others, especially the most vulnerable: TRAs alt-right etc. I am happy to test my own views by identifying where I disagree with theirs.

I loathe rainbow washing and virtue signalling. Choosing a florist last week I dismissed the one that said "LGBT friendly", and was pleased to discover the alternative was owned by gay man. I hated it when Barclays added a rainbow to their app. The rainbow has started to represent misogyny.

All good then when another group with different views from my own, noisily boycott a virtue signally business. My silent protest against M&S, John Lewis, Wagamama etc is slow to impact. Innocent is now added to my list. No Budweiser at Five Guys, though I suspect the alternative comes from the same brewery. A noisy protest to remind businesses that their role is to sell to customers rather than preach to them is fine by me.

I see that once again women are asked to solve the problems of the world. Yeah, nah.

America has an enormous problem of forced teaming and identity politics.
And we are not a small number of voices who know the difference between sexuality and personality.
We are about 50%of the population.

I am not going to do any extra work because you want me to signal my allyship. What's happening now is a highly predictable consequence of not listening to women in the first place.

I'm sick of being exploited for profit. Where were Barclays Bank when I was growing up under Section 28? I feel like the rainbow flag has been stolen from me by companies who would drop it again as soon as it ceased to be profitable. Maybe these Target boycotters will do me an unintentional favour by getting fauxtivist companies to stop usurping a flag that was never theirs to monetise.

Yes, it's usually quite stark how much of the Pride branding is used by these large companies in marketing aimed at their Middle Eastern markets. i.e. none. But they really want to make a difference, right?

Bud Light was the warning sign but this is now loud and clear. It's time to put as much distance as possible between UK gender critical views and the religious/conservative US right wing views.

There are a small number of voices calling out the GC aspects of this whilst still supporting LGBT people (@VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia , your posts above all make a lot of sense to me on this) but mostly it's just about teaming up anything that's not "heteronormative" and discriminating against it.

The fact that this is number 1 in the charts is awful. Just as men shooting cans of Bud Light etc is awful, presumably seeing a trans woman who drinks their favourite beer as a question about their own manliness - which needed a manly answer, lest they themselves might look gay or trans.

This I wrote before I was aware of the "gay" onesies. I was aware of religious people boycotting anything with a rainbow on it and thought the latest Target rumpus was more of the same. I was not aware of anyone selling products that label and sexualise kids until the last few hours.