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Gender Wars - Channel 4 - 10pm tonight

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chouxchoux · 30/05/2023 20:43

With the brilliant Kathleen Stock.

Anyone planning to watch?

(Apologies if there’s an existing thread I’ve missed).

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dapsnotplimsolls · 30/05/2023 22:45

WarningToTheCurious · 30/05/2023 22:43

I think we had a couple earlier?

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Oh, the digging pair. We didn't hear much from them.

ArabeIIaScott · 30/05/2023 22:44

God, this is so sad.

She's lost her career.

Fucking hero, though.

Faffertea · 30/05/2023 22:44

Kass needs to live in the real world. Kass needs to see what life is like for people with real struggles. A white male, middle class law student at one of the top (and expensive) higher education in the world knows nothing about oppression or how difficult life is for thousands of people in the UK.

I have no time for their smug whinging and whining

MotherOfVizslas · 30/05/2023 22:44

Little twat

WarningToTheCurious · 30/05/2023 22:43

dapsnotplimsolls · 30/05/2023 22:42

We haven't heard from any young transmen.

I think we had a couple earlier?

dapsnotplimsolls · 30/05/2023 22:42

We haven't heard from any young transmen.

Jux · 30/05/2023 22:42

Stupid boy.

ArabeIIaScott · 30/05/2023 22:42

She's so deadpan! 😂

Rightsraptor · 30/05/2023 22:41

Kass (they/them) wearing his male evening attire.

ArabeIIaScott · 30/05/2023 22:41

Another posh lad hectoring women.

PickleC · 30/05/2023 22:40

It hard to accept the argument that a new generation doesn't want to be labelled when there is so much emphasis on terms to be used, pronouns and flags

Mmmnotsure · 30/05/2023 22:40

Apologies for my old university. What happened to it?

Datun · 30/05/2023 22:40

It's the incoherence and introspection that's so notable to me.

ArabeIIaScott · 30/05/2023 22:40

Ooh, it's that debate. Fab.

Faffertea · 30/05/2023 22:39

These Cambridge students are the height of privilege. Talking about feeling afraid based on speech. They have no idea about real danger.

Motorina · 30/05/2023 22:38

These students are annoyingly whiney.

Faffertea · 30/05/2023 22:38

This is more balanced than I thought it would be so far.
And while I do appreciate Katy Jon’s perspective as more ‘moderate’ to me KJ is still arguing for some tw should be allowed to use women’s spaces.

I’d really like there to be more challenge on some of the familiar tropes we see here and Julie B to talk about statistics of transwomen amongst sex offender prison population.

WarningToTheCurious · 30/05/2023 22:38

Ooh, Kass “they/them” is definitely channelling 80s New Romantic.

Back then, we didn’t need “they/them”.

AutumnCrow · 30/05/2023 22:38

Will, Kass and Lily (Cambridge, Breaking Boundaries College) will be unpaid interning at the BBC shortly. I can feel it in my waters.

ArabeIIaScott · 30/05/2023 22:37

they certainly seem to have found several reasonable, calm sounding trans rights advocates.

Jux · 30/05/2023 22:37

Dr Finn missing the point.

Old generations would have liked to too. We're rying to get rid of stereotypes and then there'd be less nee to trans at all.

Rightsraptor · 30/05/2023 22:37

Katy Jon has rather more than one cat @JoanOgden. A whole staircase full.

JemimaTiggywinkles · 30/05/2023 22:37

I'm really enjoying it so far. I'm biased, but I think it is doing a good job of showing both sides.

RealityFan · 30/05/2023 22:36

DrudgeJedd · 30/05/2023 22:32

No idea but I've just looked at her dad's Twitter & he's a full-time XR protestor who likes to sail his boat around the Greek islands when he's not up before the beak for chucking red paint about.
You really couldn't make these people up.

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Who knew grifting could be so tiring? Sail about the Med, get a nice tan, quaff some Sangria'n'Paella, pop back to Blighty for a bit of Argy Bargy, egg on your daughter to be a similar irritant in public, pop back to the Med
...wash/rinse/repeat...

Helleofabore · 30/05/2023 22:36

How remarkable that there are trans people sitting there marveling at how it got so controversial? Why won’t women let us in the toilet?

ummmm? Have they ever even bothered to listen? Or do they only listen to their nice women mates, the ones who tell them how only haters object.