Seeing Kathleen Stock at the Oxford Union

A little off topic but my children's secondary school do hoodies, last year and this year pink has been a very popular choice amongst the boys.

That photo of her with her head peeping over the desk is hilarious. Looks like she's waiting for the sorting hat in Harry Potter.

I think that otherwise straight guys who just want to wear skirts have a bit of work to do to convince other men that it's actually ok. I used to get random homophobic fashion advice from men while wearing my pink unisex hoodie. Like, for a good section of men, wearing a pink jumper is alarminly poofy and we need to get those blokes back in line before the gay the place up too much?

I think I might get it now.

Historically women in the 'free' world had to fight for the right to choose their own clothing. Many chose the comfort and practicality of styles previously reserved for men.

Because of the hard work of previous generations, it is now widely accepted that women can wear trousers, shirts, whatever, and still be women. We had our 'clothing' revolution. We won our rights.

Now there are men in the 'free' world who also want to the right to choose their own clothing. But instead of fighting for that right, they have introduced a fiction that allows them to stealth their way into a group which they previously were excluded from.

Their success with this tactic depends upon them convincing that group that their fiction is fact. That by wearing 'women's' clothing, they actually become women.

If women accept this, the men will not need a revolution. They will not need to convince other men, for whom this has little or no impact. They only have to convince the women.

This is why they go after women.

Have I cracked it?

I think Riz has positioned Riz’s self as a young activist media person. They are very much about themselves.

Here is Riz hassling Billboard Chris the other week.

https://twitter.com/BillboardChris/status/1663650116551725056?t=uOYYM0yjFuO0eyqIaO9QXA&s=19

What I think is different is that I can't think of a single protest I ever went on - peace marches, animal rights events, anti war, anti poll tax, anti student loans, women's rights, etc, that was ever directed at one person.

The targeting of individuals like this seems new.

I've notice this too, and I wonder if it's due to a gap in anti-bullying education. The youngsters have all been told since they were tiny it's mean to go after weaker people, but perhaps no-one's told then realised that assembling a mob to attack someone even if she seems quite strong doesn't actually mean you're on the side of angels?

My (funny, clever, beautiful) friend went on a date with Billy Bragg. He was very boring.

Tell me you've never given a woman an orgasm without telling me you've never given a woman an orgasm.

Just watching the end of 'Gender Wars' - the debate where that Kass person said such hateful things.
5 minutes ago I was at Prode, walking alongside my gay and lesbian friends with our kids.
I think the first inkling of change came when I saw lesbians marching with posters about trans men.
I was surprised, didn't know what it was and was unconcerned - in fact truthfully I thought it was a bit 'unkind'.
At that point I'd never even heard of the term 'transphobic' - this was probably at one of the Pride marches 6 years ago.
Now we know what they were talking about, I constantly feel shellshocked at the sports, business, arts budging over women have had to do. I've spoken to many women and we all feel the same but so fear of speaking up is still a thing.
I wish it could be as it was, without all the Hetero opportunists gegging in and pushing us out.

He's so cloth eared isn't he?

FGM is still a HUGE problem in rural Uganda despite being outlawed in 2010. I'm sure these young girls wish desperately that they could get out of it by informing their mothers that "the idea that bilogy is immutable" is"chilling".

What they need is rights and education. Trans cultism is a luxury belief.

Gosh #1.

A debate critically revolving around the concept of free speech instills more fear and loathing from students and academics than ones from Holocaust deniers, the head of Britain's most openly racist party, and a world famous wife beater and murderer.

Gosh #2.

A decade or more of No Debate leads to the most lukewarm and conciliatory of programmes on C4 that is considered by the No Debaters as beyond the pale.

I've seen snails move and paint dry faster than the glacial progress of this "debate".

Ah happy memories of dancing to Temple of Love in the Zodiac up Oxford's Cowley Road on the Thursday goth & metal night!!

Anyway @Tabitha1960 that's v interesting info. I think Riz still has quite a bit of growing up to do.

I'm actually starting to wonder if there is actually something wrong with him. He cannot possibly believe the stuff he's coming out with. It's sheer nonsense.

😄 she's great!

Bragg is nuts

'Expressing the idea that biology is immutable has chilling consequences for those who feel that they are at odds with society’s notions of sexuality and gender. Be they in Uganda or Oxford, people are right to protest vigorously against this idea'

Billy Bragg

'biology is immutable'? WTF is he on about? SEX is immutable. What aspect of biology does he mean? What wafflepish.

KS: I'd tell them to get their iron levels checked.

😁

Good job women never gave up on campaigning because they were too knackered, isn't it?

Interviewer: What would say to the head of the students union who refuses to debate, because they've done it for so long and it's just too exhausting?

KS: I'd tell them to get their iron levels checked.

Tell me you've never given a woman an orgasm without telling me you've never given a woman an orgasm.

Isn't that the correct way to describe that?

On the other hand, apparently this is her mum, who is paid very well indeed:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/four-day-council-boss-on-six-figure-salary/

Billy Bragg wading in with his idiotic contribution to things he knows absolutely nothing about. Who is he? When did he appoint himself an expert on this issue? He will never know the discomfort we feel as women when we have to put up with unwanted male proximity. How we've been so polite and afraid to rock the boat until now. Bragg is so desperate to stay in the public eye that he's taken this as a cause to champion. What a misfire this will prove and we won't forget.

Billy Bragg says this about lesbians:

'They are not equipped to have sex as defined by biology with other women. Their ‘hardware’ is incompatible.'

Various men chipping in to say how disappointed they are in lesbians for being 'transphobic'.

Did you spot my lol? Lol