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Seeing Kathleen Stock at the Oxford Union

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JellyJazzy · 29/05/2023 23:45

If anyone is a member of the Oxford Union it says her talk is at 5pm tomorrow.

Is anyone from FWR going?

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Datun · 31/05/2023 23:20

Igneococcus · 31/05/2023 21:04

At the Cambridge Union in November, supporting the motion “This House Believes in the Right to Offend”, Stock was horrified when the undergraduate supposedly on her side, whom she’d just dined with, instead stood to denounce her. (This strapping 6ft 2in male, now non-binary, claims to feel unsafe on the streets because of views like Stock’s.)

I didn't know she dined with the disloyal dingbat, prior to that disgusting display of male dominance.

Imagine the betrayal having just shared a meal with them.

Surely, even their allies would look sidelong at someone so mendacious. You wouldn't be able to trust them an inch.

What a claim to fame.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 31/05/2023 23:20

NicCageisnotNickCave · 31/05/2023 22:45

You do know that this term refers to taking space from those seated next to you, ie on public transport?

Why would that be relevant to a single seat armchair, regardless of the sex of the occupant?

i assume Marbs thought manspreading just meant having your legs sprawled open like a big ol' manly man instead of tucked together demurely like a sweet little lady.

Poor TRAs, so locked into gender stereotypes they don't even see it.

Hawkins0001 · 31/05/2023 23:15

PonyPatter44 · 31/05/2023 23:02

Is the Cambridge Union open to the public, then? I thought it was a private members' club, like the Oxford Union.

Certain speakers , the public can attend

https://cus.org/

The Cambridge Union - Debating Society & Members Club

A unique members club set in the heart of the city of Cambridge. Browse events, book a table for food and drink, or become a member!

https://cus.org

PonyPatter44 · 31/05/2023 23:02

Is the Cambridge Union open to the public, then? I thought it was a private members' club, like the Oxford Union.

Hawkins0001 · 31/05/2023 22:58

NicCageisnotNickCave · 31/05/2023 22:47

WTF is an ‘Oxford’? I’m presuming you don’t mean a lace up shoe?

Surly Sherlock, you would know what I meant.

Hawkins0001 · 31/05/2023 22:57

NicCageisnotNickCave · 31/05/2023 22:48

Perhaps you can find an answer to your nonsensical question on their website @Hawkins0001?

https://oxford-union.org/

Pray tell, when Cambridge allow the public to their speaking events, how is it "nonsensical"

PermanentTemporary · 31/05/2023 22:56

Interesting @MerlinsLostMarbles - I read some 70s pro-gender book by Desmond Morris in the early 80s, and I remember it saying that men always sat that way, while women sat with their knees together because [cue "evolutionary biology" sexist bullshit] whereas it seemed more like to me that men wore trousers so wouldn't be flashing their genitals like that, and were overwhelmingly encouraged to take up all the space they could. So I decided to sit that way to show that women could sit that way and be comfortable, without doing it as some power/space dominance thing if it affected other people. So maybe Prof Stock had a similar train of thought, or maybe she just likes sitting that way. What about you?

Helleofabore · 31/05/2023 22:56

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/05/2023 22:53

By now it really must be for the humiliation.

And the engagement. Perhaps they are lonely.

Perhaps. They would have to be a sadist though for this kind of attention surely?

DialSquare · 31/05/2023 22:55

MerlinsLostMarbles · 31/05/2023 22:32

Can we talk about how Stock is sitting? If a man sat like that you'd all be crying "manspreading".

Oh dear

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/05/2023 22:53

By now it really must be for the humiliation.

And the engagement. Perhaps they are lonely.

SirVixofVixHall · 31/05/2023 22:50

MerlinsLostMarbles · 31/05/2023 22:32

Can we talk about how Stock is sitting? If a man sat like that you'd all be crying "manspreading".

Oh for goodness sake Merlin is that the sound of a barrel being scraped ? Are you really coming on here and telling women that a woman , relaxed in her own chair, is “MAN spreading “ ??? Manspreading is when a man deliberately takes up more than his share of a shared seat, not what people of either sex do in a chair of their own.
How utterly ridiculous.

NicCageisnotNickCave · 31/05/2023 22:48

Perhaps you can find an answer to your nonsensical question on their website @Hawkins0001?

https://oxford-union.org/

NicCageisnotNickCave · 31/05/2023 22:47

Hawkins0001 · 31/05/2023 22:39

At the Oxford Union talks, can the public attend or are they for Oxford's only?

WTF is an ‘Oxford’? I’m presuming you don’t mean a lace up shoe?

NicCageisnotNickCave · 31/05/2023 22:45

MerlinsLostMarbles · 31/05/2023 22:32

Can we talk about how Stock is sitting? If a man sat like that you'd all be crying "manspreading".

You do know that this term refers to taking space from those seated next to you, ie on public transport?

Why would that be relevant to a single seat armchair, regardless of the sex of the occupant?

Helleofabore · 31/05/2023 22:44

MerlinsLostMarbles · 31/05/2023 22:32

Can we talk about how Stock is sitting? If a man sat like that you'd all be crying "manspreading".

What? In her own chair? You really have no idea on anything, do you?

You grab whatever you think will be a clever gotcha from twitter and race over to fling it onto a thread. By now it really must be for the humiliation. You simply can not post with a positive intention to engage or contribute.

Waitwhat23 · 31/05/2023 22:41

MerlinsLostMarbles · 31/05/2023 22:32

Can we talk about how Stock is sitting? If a man sat like that you'd all be crying "manspreading".

Oh, mate.

Hawkins0001 · 31/05/2023 22:39

At the Oxford Union talks, can the public attend or are they for Oxford's only?

dropthevipers · 31/05/2023 22:36

MerlinsLostMarbles · 31/05/2023 22:32

Can we talk about how Stock is sitting? If a man sat like that you'd all be crying "manspreading".

is that really the best you've got?

Igneococcus · 31/05/2023 22:35

That is really quite desperate stuff @MerlinsLostMarbles

MerlinsLostMarbles · 31/05/2023 22:32

Can we talk about how Stock is sitting? If a man sat like that you'd all be crying "manspreading".

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/05/2023 22:13

What a great article from Janice.

StephanieSuperpowers · 31/05/2023 21:08

What I'd love is if these women were here. It'd be great to shake their cyberhands.

ApocalipstickNow · 31/05/2023 20:33

Well the laws of sexuality don’t apply to him do they?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 31/05/2023 20:27

All BB has done is shown us that his subconscious draws a connection between straight sex and proper sex.

Quite.

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