Kathleen Stock was on Good Morning Britain This Morning

According to the Oxford Mail, this is the activist who was interrupting proceedings: https://twitter.com/rizpossnett

Thing is... I kind of keep expecting these jokers to wake up and acknowledge 'we really were a bunch of knobs and how embarrassing'.

Fact is I don't think they will.

My own DAunt- in her 70s at the Vanguard of Feminism way back in the day is totally rusted on TWAW and now using they/them pronouns in support.

She's also an ed psych and a former teacher.

https://twitter.com/EdHalford1/status/1663583631351201792

Police have been called and ＠Docstockk is waiting with Matthew Dick for the situation to be resolved

Thank you Crow. I’ve seen the Oxford Mail
link but am unclear whether “she is being taken out of the building” is the protester or KS… hopefully the former.

Yes. Must be their bedtime soon, too.

hope they all pop off to their little welfare rooms so the grown ups can talk

The debate has been paused while a protester is moved. The protester is refusing to move, so it's tricky apparently.

If we tried setting up tea and cake rooms for fed up female people being excluded from things like rape crisis centres, there'd be activists barging in before the kettle was hot.

'Activists have set up “welfare rooms” in an Oxford college for trans activist protesters who are distressed, even if they haven’t attended Prof Kathleen Stock’s talk'.

Oh for the love of sanity 🙄🙄🙄

Really useful - thank you for the link.

“Welfare rooms” for the masked, sweary protesters…🤔

Activists have set up “welfare rooms” in an Oxford college for trans activist protesters who are distressed, even if they haven’t attended Prof Kathleen Stock’s talk

From www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/30/kathleen-stock-oxford-university-talk-latest-trans-critical/

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The Oxford Mail has a live feed here:

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/23556756.professor-kathleen-stock-protests-outside-oxford-union/

I was hoping it might be covered on PM but no…

I've had an anxious feeling for the past few days, I can't even imagine how KS is feeling. Hope all goes smoothly.

Has KS got inside the OU building safely, does anyone know? I believe she’s due to speak around now? I hope the protesters were behaving, it must be awful to walk that gauntlet before speaking. Come on Kathleen, we’re right behind you!

The aggression and extremism of the responses of trans activists is in direct proportion to the extent they realise that their arguments are insupportable.

They angry cause they know they can't defend their assertions.

Hi again. I'm hoping to publish a short blog post tonight about this, quoting from this thread, if posters are ok with that - specifically quoting (with acknowledgement) from the posts of @FlirtsWithRhinos and @WallaceinAnderland?

(I mostly write about archaeology and women's history; but I've done previous blog posts on my website about Mumsnet webchats with both Labour and Conservative politicians that have been discussed on FWR.)

That is a great point and I think is a major reason behind the censorship we've seen in recent years. For example the "ItsAFetish" forum on Reddit was supposedly deleted by the administration for "promoting hate" but really the issue was that it reported upon and archived evidenced of the most unsavoury portion of this cohort, that transactivists would rather not have showcased.

And I truly wish Prof Stock or anyone else would stop being labelled ‘gender critical’ and instead given the correct label ‘women’s rights advocate’. That would go a long way to correcting the bullshit misrepresentation eg BBC article today "Kathleen stock: gender critical academic determined to do talk".

Would be much more accurate but perhaps not such a good reflection on the BBC if their headline was "Kathleen stock: woman’s right advocate determined to do talk". FFS.

Just testing to see if my name comes up correctly.

Ed is an idiot, but so was Charlotte Hawkins. I can understand a man being sexist. I can't grasp women not taking an active stance against this nonsense when it's presented to them. What sort of rubbish question did she ask at the end? I mean why?

She’s never allowed past the ‘you’re denying the right for trans to exist’ deliberate misinterpretation of her arguments. Stuck always on the defensive explaining that’s not what she’s saying.

She must feel a bit like Galileo being condemned for his theory that the Earth revolved around the Sun. So now to say that being a woman is rooted in our biology and our bodies has become “formally heretical”. It is mind boggling insane that people capable of being faculty at Oxford declare this.

Can it possibly be that Ed Balls thinks that most men who say they are women have had genital surgery?

I dont think so. Although he wasnt an MP for the GRA debates, he was when the PC of GR was included into the EqA. He knows that to be protected by GR, no surgery is required.

Also, he talks about 'a vulnerable 21 year old'. That would be extremely young for someone to have been through a full diagnosis, reflection and surgery. At least very young for an average man who wants to be seen as a woman.

I suspect him saying that about genital surgery is him trying to kerp up with the official labour view. Which, to be fair on Balls, is more confusing than the GRA and EqA.

I've just had another look at the clip, the penis one.

Kathkeen says if you ask most people can a woman have a penis, most people will say no.

And Ed says yeah and I agree with that.

Can it possibly be that Ed Balls thinks that most men who say they are women have had genital surgery?

Does he understand that something like only 5% of transwomen have genital surgery? The rest are completely intact.

Is that where this disconnect is coming from?

Well done to KS on keeping your cool during EB's infuriating interviewing style, the last minute of that interview was so poignant when she was given a chance to say her piece.