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How has the media conditioned people to 'be kind' re transgender debate?

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FriendofJoanne · 26/05/2023 10:10

It definitely has; when I saw a friend a few months ago and shared the Sex Matters petition and said "but there are only 2 biological sexes" she said "but you can't say that any more".

I feel that we have absorbed the message that speaking against the trans rights movement is to be a bigot or transphobic but I'm looking for evidence of how this happened if anyone can help?

I've read the Shonagh Dillon paper (here if anyone hasn't read it) but that focuses on social media rather than mainstream. Does anyone know of anything which looks at mainstream media? Thanks

#TERF/Bigot/Transphobe – We found the witch, burn her!

https://researchportal.port.ac.uk/en/studentTheses/terfbigottransphobe-we-found-the-witch-burn-her

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Ramblingnamechanger · 26/05/2023 10:22

See the appalling programme on C 4 yesterday when what appeared to be a perfectly ordinary young lesbian was paraded naked and we were told she was he and how he was going to have top and bottom surgery . The presenter and other contestants went along with this, cue cutesy cartoon showing the process. To be fair she called herself bisexual, with only one lesbian relationship to count .at some point why didn’t the producer say, this is really not a good idea? I did wonder , maybe she went on to show the whole batshit nature of the belief system..

DemiColon · 26/05/2023 10:22

"Be Kind" is a message everywhere, and not just in terms of the trangender debate.

They have a warped view of what kind means though. I think kindness is usually a good thing, and not always easy, but that's quite different than just accepting whatever someone says, or not applying normal thinking skills to a situation.

It's also the case that across social justice movements there has been a huge push on these "things you can't say anymore." And it's not typically the really rude things - they were always recognized as rude, that was the whole point of people saying them. This is about creating an ever changing class of language that is acceptable and which is not, often with little logic and no consensus from the people who are involved either.

Similarly the idea that you can't question or dispute "lived experience."

There has been a huge push generally to remove the use of thinking skills around certain issues.

NotHavingIt · 26/05/2023 10:22

It is all part of the zeitgeist that insists that there should be no discrimination ( which is always viewed as a negative), no judgement, and no boundaries. And is overly focused on the individual rather than on the community as a whole.

I'm reading a really good book at present by Frank Furedi " Borders: Why Humanity Must Re-learn The Art of Drawing Boundaries'

FriendofJoanne · 26/05/2023 10:21

Thanks @user1492757084 I was thinking most people probably don't watch the news or read newspapers, but all seem to have absorbed that this is a taboo topic.

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FriendofJoanne · 26/05/2023 10:20

Any specific examples? It really just seems to have seeped into culture by osmosis.

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user1492757084 · 26/05/2023 10:20

People have always been kind to those who are different.
I think most people still consider that there are two sexes plus a few abnormalities at birth and some people who decide to change their sex. All are of equal worth.
Social media makes one feel that to state that might now offend people.
So, because people are generally kind and the number of people opting to change is growing, people don't state the obvious.
Main stream media focuses mostly on politics, war and the ecconomy.

Hepwo · 26/05/2023 10:15

Manipulation and bullying mostly.