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Ed Davey is just every inexplicably over-promoted, middle-aged bloke mansplaining a in meeting.

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JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 24/05/2023 09:28

I know there's other threads on this and I don't know why this 'got' me so much.

I am just so tired of it.

I sit in meetings listening to nice, reasonable men saying things like 'of course we oppose violence against girls and women'. With their pronouns in their email signatures, of course.

I was listening to the radio this morning about the string of errors that led to Couzens being free to do what he did to Sarah Everard.

Then this, with Ed patiently explaining it all to Mary.

Don't they ever listen to themselves? Don't they ever think, hang on, an actual woman is telling me there's a problem here, maybe I should listen?

It makes me feel like crying, sometimes.

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SkatieKatie · 24/05/2023 11:04

I agree with everything you've said OP

MaterDei · 24/05/2023 11:02

I think in general the vast majority of people are apathetic towards issues that don't directly impact them.

StephanieSuperpowers · 24/05/2023 10:47

What I find surprising is how unselfconcious they are about it. It literally never occurs to him that this may not be completely obvious and uncontroversial.

SunnyEgg · 24/05/2023 10:05

Yep

There’s a few posters on here that think he’s got it right. Just noisy women

Needmoresleep · 24/05/2023 10:01

My theory….

Middle aged men grew up with a level of playground homophobia. Calling other boys sissy etc. They now acknowledge it was wrong and lack confidence in their own moral compass. So they take the lead from gay men. Fine if the gay man is a normal average bloke who knows and appreciates women. Not fine if the gay man is the Stonewall influenced EDI lead, or awoke LbDem activist.

ISaySteadyOn · 24/05/2023 09:56

It's because for men like this women aren't real people. They are costumes for your avatar or NPCs. Not really real like men are. Thus their feelings don't actually matter.

PronounssheRa · 24/05/2023 09:51

Yup.

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 24/05/2023 09:48

Yeah, this >> Women aren't really people to be taken seriously as far as they're concerned.

On paper, DH agrees with me. We have two daughters. If I rant about Ed D/ Keir/ etc, he'll laugh along.

Still pretty sure he voted Labour in the locals.

It's just women's issues, before you get to the real politics. God, it makes me bitterly angry.

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RoseslnTheHospital · 24/05/2023 09:43

Absolutely spot on with that analysis.

Lottapianos · 24/05/2023 09:41

'don't they ever listen to themselves? Don't they ever think, hang on, an actual woman is telling me there's a problem here, maybe I should listen?'

No, clearly not. They're too busy telling everyone their pronouns and patting themselves on the back for being such great feminists. Women aren't really people to be taken seriously as far as they're concerned. It's pathetic

ArabeIIaScott · 24/05/2023 09:39

Bang on, OP.

Beamur · 24/05/2023 09:37

don't they ever listen to themselves? Don't they ever think, hang on, an actual woman is telling me there's a problem here, maybe I should listen?
A million percent.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/05/2023 09:31

That's how I see him too. Twat.

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 24/05/2023 09:28

*in a meeting, clearly. Too enervated to type properly.

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