Ed Davey is just every inexplicably over-promoted, middle-aged bloke mansplaining a in meeting.

I am so tired of men deciding what women are.

You have to wonder if any of these idiots know about the realities of the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy since they seem incapable of research, critical thinking or basic common sense, and just blurt out what they've been told.

My local Lib Dem candidate told me with a straight face that when babies are born the midwives and doctors have to "make a decision as to the gender of each baby born".

FFS.
As an ex midwife. As a mother of daughters, whose sex I did not know until they were born as I prefer surprises, I would go nuts if someone said this to me. How can they be so idiotic!

As Cheryl Gillan lay dying of cancer, Ed Davey had already started campaigning in her constituency. He can get in the bin.

And yes, completely agree with you OP.

Quite clearly Sirs Ed and Kier have done a deal. As quite clearly they are much cleverer than shrill women who don't realise that they ought to have penises. Quite clearly women with penises are much specialer than those without.

A few years ago I would have supported a centre left coalition as a smart move. Now I just don't know. But I do wish GC women would get into Labour and Libdems and push back against these sanctimonious prats.

I’d love it if one of these lovely male trans allies would go to bat for their transmen brothers more often. Promote that dude to COO. Invite him to go fishing. Piss in deep manly contemplation next to him at the urinal. Make him the face of diversity at your company.

but most of the time the male allies seem more interested in the rights of transwomen, at the expense of women.

I wonder why?

Failing to listen to women's concerns is one thing. Failing to comprehend the harms of genderism to young people and to listen to destransitioners. Failure to understand that our generations of young people are growing up under an implicit understanding that there are no go areas when talking about safeguarding and that lies about sex are acceptable is unforgiveable. His smug and uncomprehending answers yesterday on various media show him to be completely vacuous. My local Lib Dem candidate told me with a straight face that when babies are born the midwives and doctors have to "make a decision as to the gender of each baby born".

Nail on the head, OP.

It makes me less feel like crying though than shouting 'will you get a fucking grip'.

I think you have a point.

My observation from friends and acquaintances is that the more fervent believers in trans ideology are compensating for something. Repressed backgrounds, growing in suburbia or very non-diverse towns. It's as if they've found a very easy way to become suddenly very relevant. My friends with more colourful adolescences or diverse backgrounds are far more sceptical about everything, trans ideology included.

The other thing - especially pertinent for the teenagers currently attracted to trans ideology - is that if you're a relatively privileged middle class white person, there is less recognition by society at large of the traumas you face. And privileged young people are just as traumatised by situations such as neglect, parental divorce, abuse etc. But society isn't interested unless they can tick a "diversity" box.

I saw the quote on Twitter yesterday. I follow a lot of GC people, so I can't remember exactly who posted it. The one above is one I found doing a Google search.

Yes definitely and he's also contradicting the Lib Dem Belcher who thinks imbibing copious amounts of cross sex hormones makes a man's biological sex female and even without that, a man's apparently female psychology also means his biological sex is female.

Ed said biological sex and gender are different in trans people with a penis. They should have a chat with each other as their incoherent explanations are contradictory. They can mansplain to each other. And manlisten.

Spot on. These twats are in all our workplaces.

OP, you have mis titled Sir Edward Jonathon Davey
Show some respect , ffs.

@maranella - where is that image from? I've never seen it before.

Isn't Ed Davey an 'Orange book liberal ' ? As far as I can make out that's a Tory with a relaxed attitude to social policy.
Which they seem to have outsourced to Stonewall et al. But still a Tory eg he can't see anything wrong with Austerity which his Coalition enforced.

Lefty woke bros are some of the worst misogynists

It's incredible - to realise that they truly believe that if only women or girls are affected negatively, nobody is affected negatively.

They fail to see how Victorian their behaviour is. Complete dismissal of women's voices and our rights, with children being used to satisfy the demands of some of the most homophobic, misogynistic people in the world.

It's the epitome of an outdated patriarchal attitude to women.

Don't they ever listen to themselves? Don't they ever think, hang on, an actual woman is telling me there's a problem here, maybe I should listen?

I feel the same. It feels like such a shock when you're an adult woman, you've been to university, you have the vote, you've done a professional job, you think women have achieved some semblance of equality, and you suddenly discover that there are very many men out there who simply don't see women, or more properly don't hear them, who aren't interested in women's views or concerns and who simply think that what men want is much more important.

I think that discovery upends everything you previously thought. It takes me back to Germaine Greer: "Women have very little idea of how much men hate them."

Absolutely spot on OP.

As below

Don't they ever listen to themselves? Don't they ever think, hang on, an actual woman is telling me there's a problem here, maybe I should listen?

No, many men don't ever think this. Because they think they know best and they are there to explain it to all the people who are less intelligent and less knowledgeable than they are.

I know exactly how you feel, OP. So many men think of themselves as 'doing the right thing' without ever considering how it might affect others, especially women.

It’s so infuriating.

We are saying the same thing as they are saying, but because in our scenario the man is wearing a dress, they don’t listen.