Declining to put my preferred pronouns in my email signature

Same reason I don’t include my star sign, my favourite food or my devotion to Our Lady.

This ☝. I am a woman, but I also think of myself and others as persons....I'm not bothered about gender.

This thread is great timing for me. Started new job with leading UK charity. Contract has an equal opps para which lists all the protected characteristics except Sex. Classic. Very gently commented to HR person that I thought it was missing.

Pronouns in signature mentioned, I avoided topic. But the initial No Thank You is noted with a follow up about women being discriminated against in the workplace...

But I don't identify as anything. My sex is female. That is a biological fact.

You'd consider yourself fortunate to be forced to disclose your 'gender identity' against your will? What about your sexual orientation? Can we demand that too now?

Let me correct that for you.

Options are:

1. State your pronouns. All the gender ideologues are happy and they don't care that you're not happy.
2. Refuse to do so and everyone just gets on with life as normal. This is the most likely scenario.
3. If you work for a zealot who creates a massive issue of your refusal and you end up fired, you take a wrongful dismissal and discrimination case against them and win as you are entitled by law to your GC views.

Because dictating how other people talk about you when you aren’t there is tyrannical and self-obsessed. Also because it says that you believe in gender identity .

It's indulging in an nonsense that it's possible to choose whether your male or female based on preference.

I don't believe this to be scientifically possible. Therefore why would I perpetuate a nonsense by participating in it?

I filled in an application form, it asked was I she/her/them. I wrote I was a female, I never got an interview or even a reply.

OP it’s the old story - there’s no acceptable way of saying no.

It's also the compelled speech aspect of it. As an example, the Scottish Government's 'encouragement' of their staff to undertake a pronoun pledge, despite 58% of respondents to a consultation indicating that they did not wish to include pronouns on their email signatures.

Such compelled speech, enforced by a power imbalance, would normally be seen as a bad thing.

But no, here we have posters enthusiastically promoting compelled speech. It's truly bizarre.

This is true. I have been surprised - not in a good way - seeing certain of my senior colleagues adding pronouns to their signature.

Maybe along with my ‘preferred pronouns’ I should add that I identify as being 5’ 8” tall and a size 8.

The fact that I am 5 foot and a size 14 is immaterial, as it’s all about identity

For those who genuinely can’t see the problem with pronouns for me it’s when identity conflicts with truth. Also to misquote a phrase ‘identity exists in the eye of the beholder’. Someone can identify as whatever the hell they want but if other people literally can’t see that then their self-proclaimed identify is meaningless.

DH will soon be changing them back as he will soon find that he isn't treated with the same respect as he used to have. Would be an interesting experiment though.

What does it mean "get ut right"

It used to mean "use the pronoun appropriate to the sex as you observe it"

What does it mean now ?

Put 'agender'?

In my 50 years on the planet and 30+ years working no one has ever got it wrong with me so I’ll carry on as I am thank you.

Ironically the whole “must give your pronouns” thing is predicated on HR’s assumption that you are not in fact trans, otherwise they wouldn’t dare demand it. So rather trans exclusionary really. We have a TW at work, I’m happy to refer to them as “they” as they have requested, just as I will respect my Muslim colleague’s beliefs although I’m an atheist. That should be enough, I don’t have to adopt other people’s belief systems, or pretend I do to be polite. No thanks!

When people say just tell them how you identify

Well that's the problem

I don't identify as male or female although I am

And since the pronouns don't mean male or female it would be stupid to use them that way

But why do they they mean ?
Does she mean indentify with femininity ? Do I identify with the expectations that I will take a back seat , enjoy shopping ?

What does it mean?

Why can you explain what it means to identify as someone who prefer to use she pronouns ?

We / One

Our/ one's

His/her/their/ your majesty

sir/ ma'am

I would love to see this on a name badge

I mean, why not?

If asked, I'm going to say my preferred pronouns are he/ him. Why should men hog the power pronouns?

DH is going to choose she/her for, er, herself.

We are heterosexuals with gendered forenames.

If this catches on the waters of preferred pronouns will soon get very muddy .

Well if "being forced to use pronouns" was the worst thing about my job I'd consider myself very fortunate

Your job seems to be dicking about on feminism threads telling women to be quiet.

Oh merlin 😂😂😂