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Top finishers in Brooklyn half non-binary division all male

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Misstache · 21/05/2023 10:20

Surprise, surprise! The non-binary division offered equal prize money to the other categories. The men’s race was won in 1:03. Womens’ race won in 1:11. Non-binary top 3 men: 1:12:05, 1:17:56, 1:19:47. 1:12:05 would be 41st in the male division, 1:17:56 would be 182. Mediocre men now get the same money as elite women by calling themselves NB.

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NotHavingIt · 21/05/2023 11:10

marshmallowmatcha · 21/05/2023 10:29

Isn't this OK though? They aren't taking the women's spaces?

I think the issue is that the non binary women mostly get to be runners up to non binary men; so they just have to suck it up and accept that for them it is just the taking part that counts, not the winning.

Helleofabore · 21/05/2023 11:10

Datun · 21/05/2023 10:46

I'm going to take a wild guess and say next year the non binary event will have more participants than the other two combined. And the year after that they'll can it.

Or it will become a joke division with a zillion genders, all with different coloured hair and always won by the Y chromosome section.

I suspect you are right.

or. A female athlete will take them to court because there needs to be a NB male and NB female for the opportunities for NB female to win fairly.

It really is a discrimination case now. It needs to be tested. However the outcome is that there is double the opportunity for male athletes to win and win money!

Datun · 21/05/2023 11:06

Justme56 · 21/05/2023 10:57

It is a load of rubbish really isn’t it. There was a jokey post on twitter the other day asking if there should be some medical research into why AMAB NB’s run slower than other men as it appears there is definitely a problem.

There was a NB or the parent of a NB genuinely complaining that the AMAB non-binaries kept winning and to make it fair they should separate them into AMAB non binary and AFAB non binary.

Justme56 · 21/05/2023 10:57

It is a load of rubbish really isn’t it. There was a jokey post on twitter the other day asking if there should be some medical research into why AMAB NB’s run slower than other men as it appears there is definitely a problem.

Helleofabore · 21/05/2023 10:53

Do you understand that this means male athletes have TWO categories to win prize money?

These are literally mediocre males collecting prize money, but no female athlete will have equal opportunity in this category because the male athletes have physical advantages.

This is now discrimination of opportunity.

Datun · 21/05/2023 10:48

Now we have men, women’s (also men’s), and non-binary (men.)

exactly.

I wonder what will happen when the non-binary women lose at that too, will it suddenly click.

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Misstache · 21/05/2023 10:46

And it also reinforces the idea that sports divisions are about identity. When we accept the idea of a non-binary division we are accepting the idea that your personal identity is relevant to sports competition. We don’t have categories for “Asian women,” or “mothers” or “immigrant.” What’s relevant is your sex. These men can identify as NB and run with the men. Accepting this division is part of eroding sex-based sports by pretending your gender identity matters: it exists as a partner to pushing men into womens’ sports as well.

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Datun · 21/05/2023 10:46

I'm going to take a wild guess and say next year the non binary event will have more participants than the other two combined. And the year after that they'll can it.

Or it will become a joke division with a zillion genders, all with different coloured hair and always won by the Y chromosome section.

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Misstache · 21/05/2023 10:42

These men haven’t even changed their names - they’re literally just men. It may be better than running in the women’a category, but why should men get a whole other category? Now we have men, women’s (also men’s), and non-binary (men.) Mediocre men can choose two extra categories to win in depending on how much effort they want to put into changing their bodies/identities. Women are over in women’s where we can be beaten by men. A woman training at an elite level to be at the top of her category gets the same prize money as a man who wouldn’t be 100th in his. And of course, biological men are always faster even though people keep trying to tell us women just need to run faster and try harder.

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marshmallowmatcha · 21/05/2023 10:29

Isn't this OK though? They aren't taking the women's spaces?

lanadelgrey · 21/05/2023 10:29

Fabulous, a bit of a pita to be endured for a few short years as more people realise what this means for female runners

BluebellBlueballs · 21/05/2023 10:27

Sorry wrong thread, was supposed to ne about the mad nebraska Woman

BluebellBlueballs · 21/05/2023 10:27

Am I alone in beginning to think that a lot of the time, its not really about trans people? It's about the need to be seen as woke/ morally superior, have an enemy to rail against (terfs) , be part of a 'side'?

Transgender is just the current focus/ topic du jour. If something else was the 'in' issue to display moral superiority she'd be doing her little chant for that instead.

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