Brighton NHS trust recommends drug-induced male breastfeeding in their maternity protocols

I don't see why logically, if transwomen are being encouraged or supported to attempt to directly feed a baby with their secretions, that other men could do it too. With NHS Brighton's full support. Surely it's discriminatory for them not to?? Never mind about the baby of course. That's not the important thing here, male validation is!

This endocrinologist who has apparently done this with 5 male people. Where's the research paper? The peer reviewing? The examination of methodology and risk? The evidence that it is in the best interest of the baby, which is what must take priority given the baby is the most vulnerable person in this scenario?

Frankly I just don't believe it, unless there is direct evidence that it is possible, that any liquid produced is adequate and that volume is sufficient to actually be of any use.

I've had to start off breastfeeding twice by exclusively expressing due to poorly babies. It's hard hard work, and that's with a body that's producing the right cascade of hormones and with the ability to respond correctly to the expressing regime.

This genuinely makes me want to vomit.

I am not saying you have made it up!
I am saying that drug induced secretions produced by a man are not IMO life saving. The man claiming his secretions are life saving is deluded.
Who knows whether those secretions are safe to give a baby that is not getting any other supply of milk.

Have you read the article I linked?

'A day and a half after she came home, Sandi was still trying to breastfeed. A lot of it was left to me going through my stored supply and whatever I was expressing.'
While at home Ms Honnery-Buckley suffered severe abdominal pain and an elevated heart rate. An ambulance took her to hospital and it was discovered she had retained placenta products, which meant she was not producing milk.
'Apart from the milk he was getting from me he was essentially starving,' Ms Buckley said of the couple's hungry son.
'I genuinely believe had I not brought my breast milk into the hospital he could have become very sick with liver and kidney issues from lack of nutrition.'

I’m jumping in to appeal to any Western Australians to please have your say on this. https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=796862405135940&set=a.263657845123068. I have no trust in what our government is trying to do.

This thread is timely for me. I will be using some of the links.

My real concern is who in power is allowing and agreeing that this is normal ?

Hiding in very plain sight. as for the Mothers who allow this shit to happen 😡

I totally agree . I had problems as my son was premature and I desperately wanted to breast feed . I got given a milking machine and no other help. This sounds like discrimination against women to me .

How the fuck is this in the baby's best interests?
The world is going mad.

Fucking HELL. The NHS is actually promoting this absolute shit?? It would be Brighton.

Has nobody thought of the welfare of the baby here?

There's a reason why they didn't say to my baby's dad "here, have some drugs and you do it".

I was treated like a failed mother by the NHS because I struggled to breastfeed. The psychological scars of that lasted for years. I got an "I'm sorry you feel like that " letter when I complained. This shit disgusts me. I hate to think of other new mothers in my position now being treated like that and then seeing this bollocks.

Men do produce a sort of milk type discharge from their nipples. It is always pathological but sometimes a side effect of necessary medical treatment. It will not have nutritional value to an infant and will not give the baby the passive immunity it gets from breastfeeding from its actual mother.

Domperidone used to be available to buy over the counter but concerns raised by the MHRA mean it is now prescription only and when prescribed dire warnings pop up about not using it longer than 3 days. Including when used to treat chemotherapy related nausea/vomiting.

For actual women, there are better ways to try an induce lactation than Domperidone because our bodies naturally produce more oxytocin when we see, smell and hear our babies. Men, of course, don’t.

These men are just in a complete fantasy land that just gets more and more sinister.

"This person claims that the fluid they produced from their breasts was lifesaving for their infant, because the infant's mother was struggling to breastfeed due to retained placenta".

That statement makes absolutely no sense at all. Complete made up nonsense.

This is the most depressing thing to read. I know that it’s been said multiple times but there’s just no focus on what’s best for the baby.

Why would a transwoman want to breastfeed? Validation.

This person claims that the fluid they produced from their breasts was lifesaving for their infant, because the infant's mother was struggling to breastfeed due to retained placenta.

But to be told I could have the opportunity to breastfeed, it was something that was nice to be able to experience as a trans woman.'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10859287

This.

I'm afraid this sort of shit will hasten the end of the NHS.

Because yes, it's underfunded but when the funds that are available instead of being used for more nurses, paramedics, or to help new Mums are spent on this and the 'diversity' managers then no-one can really argue that there is mismanagement of the funding. Insane, absurd, anti-science mismanagement on a colossal scale.

And you're okay with this.
Wow.

Who on earth made this decision? Why was it agreed? Is it being implemented?
The NHS has provided zero support to my niece and her new baby. No health visitor visits, only telephone consultations etc.
I can't believe what Im reading!

The NHS is in tatters.
Old people are lying on the floor waiting eight hours for an ambulance to take them in with a fractured femur.
There are countless delays and waiting lists.
You can't see a GP.
But money is being spent on this!!!!!!!!
I'm disgusted.
Who makes these decisions

Note to self - never move to Brighton. Encourage friends in that vicinity to move away.

It would be child abuse in my book. Both parents should be prosecuted if this ever happens.

It is extra outrageous when there sadly are so many stories like yours.

Where is the magic money tree that suddenly exists to fund shit like this but NOT help in situations like yours?

My eldest had jaundice after being born by emergency caesaerean. I had no help in getting up and to his cot when I had to feed him every 2. hour to establish routine and flow for 4 days. I had a few midwives yell at me for pulling the cord to have some help when I was crying with exhaustion. Major surgery just had to be coped with 🤷🏽‍♀️
This was 20 years ago, mind.

Still, so many stories and then this fuckery pops up and there’s mountains of dosh.
Makes me proper cross.

Not mention thought given to the babies in this situation. This is just so creepy! Weird men.