Two Australian women told they broke the law after criticizing male breastfeeding child

Apologies, samosamo, I really didn't read/interpret your post correctly. Thanks for posting back.

This is just horrifying.

Yikes!

that is grim reading.

But . . . but . . . they have speshull "arm creases" speshully 4 holdin babbie heads!!

That person is not holding the baby correctly, won’t get a good latch.

thankfully I don’t suppose the infant will feed for much longer than it takes to get the photos so this persons nipples won’t get wrecked.

that’s a relief.

Narcissistic, fetishistic, abusive.

Those doing this and those facilitating it all belong in jail.

State sanctioned child abuse

This is child abuse, there’s no other way to describe it. This male is having a newborn suck on his nipples for his own fetish gratification, and deliberately forgoing the mother’s natural bond. It’s perverted and all about what excites the male, not what benefits the infant.

For the Australian government to censor those trying to safeguard our most vulnerable (babies, not males!), it’s disgraceful. Maybe they want to publish a list of the body parts it’s now acceptable for males to put in children’s mouths to suck the fluid from?

The website is amply illustrated with photographs of semi-naked women and "second women", often in sexualised poses. It makes for a strange read with those illustrations alongside all the "science bits". Like one of those old-fashioned rather posh "men's magazines" that we were assured were only read for the "book reviews" and "politics" - never for the erotica, of course. Given the intended audience, it's hard to know whether the "erotica" is as much in the "science bits" as in the illustrations.

Indeed. Two pick out just two:

I didn't breastfeed for very long but when I was learning how to express, I don't recall seeing a photo like the one in this article. When I talked about breastfeeding with friends (to get advice etc), I don't recall two of us doing it together while staring in to each other's eyes.

And yes, the words.... I don't remember the details but I read somewhere on this board about a study done with a group of GAP (I still don't dare write this correctly - my one and only deletion on MN was a fairly generic message in which I did, for the first time) men whose brain patterns were observed to change to show arousal when they were asked to imagine themselves putting on mascara.

Lactation and the Transsexual Woman
by Annie Richards (one of the . . . "Second Type Women")
2001, updated 2018

"Domperidone - After a lot of research I theorised in 2001 that the use of Domperidone might help to induce lactation in transwomen. This article was almost certainly the first published in any media to suggest that. It caused some debate on boards but was ignored by the medical profession. Seventeen years later I was amused to read that a US clinic was claiming to have made a major medical advance by using Domperidone to stimulate lactation in a transwoman!"

Amid a lot of science there are some jarrings flight of fancy, eg. considering immediate post-partum breast-feeding as part of pregnancy and birth and therefore, if lactation can be achieved, that a male can have been partly pregnant and have partly given birth:

"Once the baby is born, the transsexual mother may well be able to experience the final physical act of pregnancy and birth and attempt to nurse her new baby - albeit with many assumptions such as being well enough after the delivery and her breasts are adequately developed and haven't been badly damaged by augmentation. There are already a few instances of transsexual women lactating and even breast feeding the babies of ex-wives or female partners."

VERY LONG article:
https://secondtypewoman.info/lactation.htm

The author explains, "I never led an active sex life pre-transition but my early sexual attraction was definitely to girls. However, when I had a relationship with an extremely pretty girl, the sexual interest was one-sided, to my own dismay."
(Author's emphasis).

After being on cross-sex hormones for a while the author "responded" to advances from men and eventually married a man.

The website is amply illustrated with photographs of semi-naked women and "second women", often in sexualised poses. It makes for a strange read with those illustrations alongside all the "science bits". Like one of those old-fashioned rather posh "men's magazines" that we were assured were only read for the "book reviews" and "politics" - never for the erotica, of course. Given the intended audience, it's hard to know whether the "erotica" is as much in the "science bits" as in the illustrations.

Have just read that the Australian eCommissioner was a vocal trans rights activist prior to this position. Seems she is continuing the activism…

@LyingWitchInTheWardrobe

Def a woman.

You have totally misunderstood me. I'm saying it's totally wrong. The idea that a trans woman could possibly think they can overtake women in terms of female development is just a joke (as in 'I realized most cis women do not even make it to Tanner stage five....')

Now we actually have trans women defining what full womanhood is and declaring they have reached it because they've taken chemicals, whereas child free women never get there. It's offensive.

This is terrifying.

This is child abuse.

This is one more tactic in the game these mentally ill men play to try to obliterate women.

samosamo... a woman would never ever say what you have. Never. So ignorant of what a woman actually is.

This makes me heave. How can anybody think this the right thing for a baby? Women give birth to babies, have everything they need to feed and nourish their babies... and some men feel they just have to faux perform.

"At that time I was comfortably into stage four on the Tanner scale [a system used to medically qualify the development of secondary sex characteristics], and from my research I realized most cis women do not even make it to Tanner stage five unless they've gone through pregnancy or a lactation protocol, because it requires that extra bit of development that prepares you for breastfeeding in order to finish the development of your breasts."

Now I've heard it all.

Most women aren't actually full women because they don't have give birth and lactate. And actually trans women, who take chemicals to breastfeed go further in their womanly development than child-free women. Therefore, they are more woman than those women?

That is so incredibly offensive. You only complete womanhood when you have a baby? Please fuck off.

Yup, same in Canada.

If I'm honest, I'd like to leave. I've really come to despise the people here. Which isn't really fair, but it can be a pretty overwhelming feeling at times.

This is absurd.
It's risking the health of the baby to have it suck on a man's chest when it needs feeding. He should be arrested and the child put under court protection.

Just a reminder about what seems to be the power of the Australian eCommissioner (which may or may not be because she once worked for twitter) to get twitter to delete tweets based on Australian law.

So what seems to be going on in Australia that based on the politics of one woman / her department, users of twitter dont have the freedom of speech that other twitter users have. Have no idea how one countries law can be imposed on a company based in the US.

So yes, Australian social media users have less rights than others on social media, and it probably isn't surprising that the stories being repressed are more often than not have a gender critical stance.

Maybe we need to have an Australian news thread on FWR?!

NB - please be aware that some of the language used by Reduxx can lead to your thread being deleted by MNHQ, so if quoting them be sure that it doesn't contain certain phrases listed in MNHQ's special guidelines for FWR.

*And

Indeed.

Once you have read some of the lactation fantasies in places like Reddit, you can never see this as anything other than a particularly nasty fetish.

These men take a cocktail of drugs and then spend, quite literally, months on end desperately trying to squeeze out one or two drops of liquid in order to fantasise that they are lactating.

It's truly revolting. Not least the fact that the men, many of whom are quite young, devote so much of themselves to pornographic escalation. They don't think about the mother, the baby, the social stigma, nothing.

I don't get me started on the wholesale male support for a nine-year-old drag queen calling himself Lactatia. Ffs.

Jesus Brisland, you have my utmost sympathy. What a shit show all this is.

Yes, you're right, your legislation has been passed, when ours was stopped at the eleventh hour. Well some of it.

Legislation is hard to reverse, I agree. But it can be done. Especially when people start to sue.

With a lot of Europe putting a brake on puberty blockers, and questioning the medication of children, it will ripple out eventually.

But in the meantime, I agree, it's absolutely infuriating and scary.

God this is appalling...the narcissism and selfishness of the individual - to prioritise their fantasies of being a 'woman' over the feeding needs of a vulnerable infant. Makes me furious and nauseated at the same time.

Biological sex matters, nobody can convinced me otherwise.

Some of these posts make me feel ill and it was bad just at the op

So bad

Oh yes

They described it as an electrical charge.

Do you also remember the South American photographer that released the photos of the male model with estrogen derived breasts pretending to feed an infant? The infant was a prop for that photoshoot!