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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
AlisonDonut · 07/05/2023 12:57

GIDS have been training the new centres. So there's that.

RealityFan · 07/05/2023 12:47

nilsmousehammer · 07/05/2023 11:52

DIsmantling GIDS was addressing the symptoms. The root cause is going to have to be faced and dealt with.

Arrogant cult of personality surgeons, biased and self-absorbed therapists, and profit-driven pharma, what could go wrong?

All that they'll admit went wrong at the Tavistock was the fault of everyone else... transphobic society, funding cutbacks from central government, data to support the radical Affirmation And Intervention protocol slow in coming...never themselves.

So the root cause being rooted out? Don't hold your breath. Even now, Sunak is slow to read the runes. The brief tenure of the previous health secretary Sajid Javid showed promise, he highlighted the need to absolutely investigate further.

But nothing has come of this from the current incumbent.

Will the SSE debacle that Miriam Cates and Rosie Duffield both highlighted lead to meaningful change?

When Labour win the next GE, and we either sleepwalk to Self ID or we're on the express train, I'll always remember a CONSERVEative government that was at the wheel for 14 years while this momentum built up, but was totally asleep. And thus did the opposite of conserving female rights and kids welfare.

That's a bitter pill for this four decades plus Tory voter to swallow.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 07/05/2023 12:37

While I think most doctors are GC, the medical profession's bureaucracy is totally captured. The BMA, GMC, many Royal Colleges, medical schools, the CQC and NHS England (and devolved equivalents) are all pushing Stonewall law. It is frightening what is being taught in medical school. Of course, medical training has always been politicised to some extent, and influenced by contemporary social beliefs - think Victorians and female hysteria. But I cannot think of any time in the past when we were knowingly teaching medical students ideology in preference to science in the UK. It genuinely reminds me of Nazism, in the sense of teaching students to value ideology above reality.

nilsmousehammer · 07/05/2023 11:52

DIsmantling GIDS was addressing the symptoms. The root cause is going to have to be faced and dealt with.

RealityFan · 07/05/2023 11:46

nilsmousehammer · 07/05/2023 11:38

Such a relief to see this increasingly being stated and addressed and more and more small resistance groups growing.

We predicted here on FWR on the day of the interim Cass report that unless the NHS and govt were very careful, GIDS would just break into hubs with the political pressure groups and lobby and carry on doing exactly what GIDS was doing in smaller pockets. This is apparently happening and professionals are fully aware of it.

Rats fleeing the sinking ship find newer ships.

nilsmousehammer · 07/05/2023 11:38

Such a relief to see this increasingly being stated and addressed and more and more small resistance groups growing.

We predicted here on FWR on the day of the interim Cass report that unless the NHS and govt were very careful, GIDS would just break into hubs with the political pressure groups and lobby and carry on doing exactly what GIDS was doing in smaller pockets. This is apparently happening and professionals are fully aware of it.

RealityFan · 07/05/2023 11:36

My God, they have their tentacles in everything, don't they?

So with the Tavistock model totally discredited by Cass and the Time To Think book, the regional hubs are gonna follow...the Tavistock model???!!!

I'm a health professional, luckily with a light touch regulator and one to one with patients where I have full autonomy, my patients mainly GC and happy to talk about this subject.

The rot has really set in deep to the main institutions, hopefully Hadley's report is a sign of proper sunlight filtering in.

This battle has a lot longer to run, herd mentality and purity spirals have scuppered medicine for too long.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 07/05/2023 11:35

Another one amazed and horrified that these dangerous practices have been allowed to spread unchecked in the medical profession. Good to see Hadley publicising this and thank you Slothtoes for this:

  1. because obviously, first do no harm, children and young people’s well-being are at stake
  2. because the kind of professional evidence from practice they bring is shocking
  3. there is no TRA counter to these professional concerns. TRA lobby are essentially a religious cult with no evidence to show of patient benefit, no evidence to show of patient safety and no system of professional ethics to back up the kind of ‘healthcare’ that they are advocating for.
impossible · 07/05/2023 11:31

Thanks for sharing this.

It's terrible that choices that irreversibly impact the lives of vulnerable prepubescent girls can't be openly discussed and questioned so best outcome is arrived at. I'm struggling to understand how this has happened.

YouJustDoYou · 07/05/2023 11:22

I can't believe it said there are some medical professionals who say sex is created by society! What the actual fuck?

Gagagardener · 07/05/2023 11:13

I had not previously seen this. It is very alarming that doctors, many of them working in 'mental health' rather than more physical areas of medicine, who feel the need to band together to resist the confusion of sex and gender are afraid to speak out openly. Hadley Freeman is doing good work.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 07/05/2023 11:09

Wow

simultaneously heartening and depressing article, thank you for the share

“We have members who have been accused of transphobia for asking to see the evidence behind medicalised gender treatments. But it is very clear the evidence is weak. We are not the outliers here. Sex really does matter.”

jeez Louise

medics being pilloried for asking for evidence. What the heck?

NotRightNowNo · 07/05/2023 11:05

Thanks for the share token OP. As usual HF has written a thoughtful article. I agree with her point that it seems peculiar that such a group needs to exist at all. Evidence-based healthcare is sadly lacking in this area

Slothtoes · 07/05/2023 11:04

Excellent article thank you for thread Igneococcus CAN-SG need to get in the media and Parliamentary spotlight as much as possible.

  1. because obviously, first do no harm, children and young people’s well-being are at stake

  2. because the kind of professional evidence from practice they bring is shocking

3)there is no TRA counter to these professional concerns. TRA lobby are essentially a religious cult with no evidence to show of patient benefit, no evidence to show of patient safety and no system of professional ethics to back up the kind of ‘healthcare’ that they are advocating for.

i think we should be concerned about the transparency of these new regional hubs. Harder to scrutinise a distributed network of centres, than one main one with satellite centres under their umbrella.. a good time to ask questions about this.