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The NHS want to know what genitalia I have

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Annaissleeping · 05/05/2023 14:55

I just had to ask for a home testing STI kit as recently I slept with someone and he took the condom off and pretended he hadn't realised that had happened.

I rang them to confirm some details and they said they needed to know my gender assigned at birth and my current gender. I said I was female and honestly quite flustered, added, I didn't have a gender.

Oh I'm sorry, the woman said, it's just we need to know what genitalia you have to send the right kit.

Not that women's feelings matter, but it felt intrustive - it's not so fun having to go through this process and being asked anything other than 'are you male or female.' But that is from someone whose 'genitalia' suffered an injury in a different assault and who has quite a lot of difficulties getting up the courage to access any medical care and discuss any aspect of my body/physical health. How many people in the UK actually know what assigned gender or genitalia actually means, outside of the gender bubble given the national reading age is about 10/11?!

Thank goodness for a health care service system in evidence-based medicine and objective science, right? 🙄

(I just needed to vent, I know people are aware this is happening)

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RoseslnTheHospital · 05/05/2023 15:58

This was a home testing kit. No anything to do with attending a clinic. Home testing kits are provided (amongst other reasons) to encourage uptake of testing for women who might otherwise not attend an in person test. There will be plenty of (obvious) reasons why women might want a home testing kit, and people who are triaging the access to them ought to be aware of that and interact with patients with that in mind.

BanjoKnickers · 05/05/2023 15:55

Now women have to answer silly and intrusive questions just to appease ideologues.

Oh for goodness sake, it's a clinic for willies, fannies and the clap. Last time I went I was asked all about my sexual history, what I liked doing in the bedroom and then had things inserted into orifices by someone I'd only known for five minutes. Being asked what was in my underwear would have been insignificant small talk.

RoseslnTheHospital · 05/05/2023 15:49

It's not a sensible question. "What is your sex, male or female?" is a simpler starting point. No one is assigned a gender a birth. Sex is noted, at birth, and prior to that often via scans or via various in utero tests, for example.

You could then ask about whether or not the patient has had sex reassignment surgery or cross sex hormones if that's relevant to the specific tests being carried out.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/05/2023 15:46

Your genitalia are definitely important when it comes to STI testing. And I guess they're trying to avoid confusion in case people don't understand the various permutations of assigned at birth, sex, gender, non-binary etc. Or perhaps they need to adapt the tests if you've had surgery to alter your genitals. It seems a very reasonable question to me. If you're having an STI test then you are going to be asked quite a lot of questions that don't get asked when you buy a coffee

oh for goodness sake. Male and female used to cover this nicely and simply before all this other rubbish language complicated things. Now women have to answer silly and intrusive questions just to appease ideologues.

BanjoKnickers · 05/05/2023 15:42

Your genitalia are definitely important when it comes to STI testing. And I guess they're trying to avoid confusion in case people don't understand the various permutations of assigned at birth, sex, gender, non-binary etc. Or perhaps they need to adapt the tests if you've had surgery to alter your genitals. It seems a very reasonable question to me. If you're having an STI test then you are going to be asked quite a lot of questions that don't get asked when you buy a coffee.

Reallybadidea · 05/05/2023 15:33

I'm sorry you had to go through this. I honestly don't understand why they can't just say "are you male or female? Are you transgender?" then if the person says they are transgender then they can go through all the genital stuff with them. Inclusive without all the nonsense about gender/sex being assigned at birth.

Theunamedcat · 05/05/2023 15:28

Surely they need to know your sex to know your genitalia?

So sorry you have had this experience 😔

IcakethereforeIam · 05/05/2023 15:25

Flowers what an altogether horrible experience.