Man threatened with Prevent for questioning transgender book at nephew's school.

How did your daughter know this was a woman? Seems a bit transphobic to infer this.

Isla Bryant has a penis, that was clear from the photos taken when he was arriving at court. I would say that makes him a man, unfortunately certain do gooders believe and believed in his case, that him saying he wants to be a woman made him one. Which led to him being in a situation where young women were stripping off in front of him. Reluctantly, I might add.
Why would anyone think that is OK?

Would it be reasonable of my daughter to ask for counselling in a setting that doesn't include women, given that a woman was responsible for her assault?

Yes, though if she really doesn't want to open up with other women then it might need to be a one-to-one setting with a male counsellor rather than a group at all. She could hardly be in a group with only men, could she?

Weird leap to make - having concerns re: how current day climate activism impacts on the mental health of people (especially children, adolescents and young adults) doesn’t mean denying that the climate change is a thing.

Are you always this extreme?

Yes, if she feels safer with a male counsellor the she absolutely should be able to request one.

How do you think she would feel if she requested a male counsellor but got a female one who look , dressed and sounded female, but everyone told her that the woman was actually a man so she must reframe her trauma?

Is Isla Bryant a trans woman?

You tell me. Like I say, even the First Minister couldn't decide.

What do you think?

We should use clear language ‘trans woman’ suggests they are somehow women, not men who identify as women. A lot of the public still think a trans woman is a woman who identifies as a man, hence the clear distinction in polls where it is made clear than a transwoman is a man who identifies as a woman and needs to make absolutely no changes to his appearance to do so (and we know only a tiny minority ever take hormones or have genital surgery). Using the phrase trans women is purposefully done to obscure the fact they a male, they are men and that will never change. We certainly do need to be clear in our use of language.

We also know from the census than men who identify as trans (transwomen) are five times more likely to be sex offenders than other men.

@Wehadabetamax
"Prevent targets all forms of radicalisation, it does not target Muslims. Also he isn't a parent of the school, so shouldn't have been involved."

The West seems to have lost the concept of extended family. The West barely tolerates the notion of parents having a say in their child's upbringing. Muslim communities have not. To the extent that many muslim nations don't even have normal systems for adoption in place because it is so expected that a family member will take care of an orphan even if their closest family is some remote second cousin.

To you it is wrong that an uncle should have an interest in his nephew's well-being and therefore be able to show up and speak to it to people. To muslim communities (and formerly in the West before the war on family), it is the most normal thing in the world. Not merely acceptable but a duty. You look after your family.

"They now expect women to include transwomen in the women's own group. Even for a sex-based crime."

My young adult daughter was assaulted by a woman - held overnight and threatened. The woman only let my daughter come home after I threatened to get the police involved. (incidentally - when I called the police and told them my daughter had been plied with alcohol, had texted me to say the woman she'd gone on a date with had hit her and shouted at her, and refused to let her leave and that she was scared, the police response was 'what do you expect us to do?)

Would it be reasonable of my daughter to ask for counselling in a setting that doesn't include women, given that a woman was responsible for her assault?

The Prevent Strategy was introduced in 2011. I am sure we can all remember terrorist incidents that took place in 2011, and which group were responsible for them, which triggered this.

"By 'if girls are forced to strip off in front of boys' - when you say 'boys' are you referring to trans women?

Girls were obliged to strip in front of Isla Bryant and even the Scottish First Minister couldn't decide which of those words to use."

Is Isla Bryant a trans woman?

"doomerism (despite the mental health crisis in teens and a recent suicide that the coroner partially attributed to fears around climate change)"

Are you a climate change denialist?

And one of your arguments for downplaying the challenges of climate change is that the discussion around climate change is making young people severely worried about the future of the planet, and their own futures within it?

According to NASA ' The Earth Will Continue to Warm and the Effects Will Be Profound" - https://climate.nasa.gov/effects/ You think young people shouldn't be worried about this?

The hospital rape was one of two things that made me fully reverse my previous position on self id. The other being the loss of women-only rape crisis services. You'd think one group for men, one for LGBTQ, and one for men would be enough to satisfy trans women and still give women their own space? Nope. Not good enough for Sussex Rape Survivors and not for the CEO of Rape Crisis Scotland. and not for many other groups. They now expect women to include transwomen in the women's own group. Even for a sex-based crime.

By 'if girls are forced to strip off in front of boys' - when you say 'boys' are you referring to trans women?

Girls were obliged to strip in front of Isla Bryant and even the Scottish First Minister couldn't decide which of those words to use.

Can you be clear what you mean otherwise it's quite hard to have a sensible conversation about this.

Isn't it?

Oh and the head of stonewall said lesbians that won't consider sleeping with tw who have a Penis are sexual racists and nazis. That's the biggest mostly government funded lgbt charity that says lesbians can't be lesbians.

Where have you been? Do you ever watch the news? Did you think left wing women everywhere just made this stuff up? None of us had an issue with tw until tras started pushing and everything stated above started happening. For over a year the hospital told the police it was not possible and the police accepted this. Eventually politicians got involved, the hospital handed over the cctv and there the rape was. Now they could have checked the cctv immediately and avoided all of that but because tw are the sacred caste he was believed or not even questioned as nhs and police thought it was not possible for a tw to rape someone.

"if a woman raped on a hospital ward is told she couldn’t have been because no men were present" - has this happened? That a victim of sexual assault in a hospital was told she couldn't have been assaulted because no men were present?

Not just the woman herself, that's what the hospital told the police. For months. Reported to the House of Lords by Baroness Winterbourne https://hansard.parliament.uk//lords/2022-03-16/debates/84C9B6AA-0214-4CEF-A41D-302373BDC190/HealthAndCareBill#contribution-2C34DA23-A5AD-483E-ACB8-AF8A5C547F7 (scroll through to 1.15am)

All of the following links mention suicide.

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2022/may/19/climate-suicides-despair-global-heating

https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7wd4e/canada-assisted-suicide-climate-anxiety

(recent Brighton case)

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/23450878.amp/

Why do well meaning people have such a blind spot for left wing extremism?

Do you think it’s wilful blindness?

Only I can’t come up with any other plausible explanation for why teachers can see the negative influence of incels and red pillers but can’t see the same in left wing IDPOL and doomerism (despite the mental health crisis in teens and a recent suicide that the coroner partially attributed to fears around climate change).

Sorry for typos!

@izimbra , yes boys are identifying as female and are being told they can use female facilities, men who have committed very serious sexual assault and been sentenced to a term of imprisonment have been sent to female only prison and continued to assault, at least one female was raped in hospital and the police were told by staff that it could not have happened because no males were on the ward as a patient, only there was a man identifying as a woman. All of this is happening and women are being gaslit and told it's not. It's only when it's actually looked into that the truth cone out.
What about the sorority house, in I think Montana, where a person with a penis has been allowed in? He apparently walks around wearing leggings with a visible erection. The women are taking action because they don't want to be in this situation. Can you blame them?
There are countless instances of such activities but women are being told it doesn't happen, or they have to allow it for the sake of inclusivity. It's an utter disgrace.

Can you C&P from the article where the author is calling for violence?

Yes that would be the part where they call for "militant anti-fascism" and refer to the "anti-fascist movements of the recent past"...

"What is required is a militant anti-fascism. We need more people in the street taking a stand (who aren’t the SWP). Based on my own experiences, the anti-fascist movements of the recent past appear to be missing in action, meaning a new generation has had to take up the reins with little guidance."

For more info on militant anti-fascim see here...

https://crestresearch.ac.uk/resources/understanding-21st-century-militant-anti-fascism/

When the article in Organise refers to "anti-fascist movement of the recent past", it is referencing the tactics of groups such as Anti-Fascist Action (AFA) and Red Action who used violence to no platform actual fascist organisations such as the NF and the BNP in the 80s and 90s. These groups were made up of both anarchists and members of left wing groups such as the SWP etc. They were completely unlike the so called "anti-fascists" that turn up at KJK events today in that if you saw them you would definitely be running fast in the other direction.

This is an account of the Battle of Waterloo which is the type of of anti-fascist militancy "of the recent past" that this article is calling for activists to use against women who want to discuss their rights...

https://libcom.org/article/15-waterloo-blood-and-honour-gig-london-1992

Other links for your perusal...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Action
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Fascist_Action

https://libcom.org/article/1985-2001-short-history-anti-fascist-action-afa

"Ah, I see, you think it is unlikely to happen to you so it doesn’t matter if women share a cell with male rapists, if girls are forced to strip off in front of boys, if lesbians are told they must date men, if a woman raped on a hospital ward is told she couldn’t have been because no men were present, if your medal was stolen by a man…"

I don't want anyone to have to share a cell with a rapist regardless of gender.

By 'if girls are forced to strip off in front of boys' - when you say 'boys' are you referring to trans women? Can you be clear what you mean otherwise it's quite hard to have a sensible conversation about this.

"if lesbians are told they must date men" - genuine question, who is telling anyone they 'must date' anyone they're not attracted to?

"if a woman raped on a hospital ward is told she couldn’t have been because no men were present" - has this happened? That a victim of sexual assault in a hospital was told she couldn't have been assaulted because no men were present? Is it something you're concerned about happening a lot? Because as I pointed out - trans women make up 0.2% of the population. Predatory, criminal transwomen will make up a vanishingly small percentage of a tiny percentage. Yet you feel horrible threatened by this and feel the rest of us should do to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_of_tactics

Calling people "fascist" is setting them up for violent attacks by far-left activists.

Whether you want to call that "dehumanising" or not I'm not going to worry about. It's all a part of the "punch a TERF" rhetoric.

Where is the ideological link between wanting single sex spaces and genuine historical fascism?

A white supremacist group can agree with you that the earth is spherical. Big deal.

What @Shelefttheweb said. If we can't be bothered because 'it doesn't effect me', then we really have plumbed the depths. I don't go swimming, or to the gym, rarely shop in a clothes shop, don't have school age kids, but I'm still concerned about how women who do are treated. Primarily because it's how a civilized society works, we should be thinking about how other, particularly vulnerable people, are dealt with in certain situations.

Ah, I see, you think it is unlikely to happen to you so it doesn’t matter if women share a cell with male rapists, if girls are forced to strip off in front of boys, if lesbians are told they must date men, if a woman raped on a hospital ward is told she couldn’t have been because no men were present, if your medal was stolen by a man…