Transitioning man in the womens open changing room and communal showers at local swimming pool

OP, I would gently remind you that men don't ever have to make any physical changes to their body at all to get official documents with a female marker or, often, to "identify as" women and persuade venues that they can use women's spaces.

In physical terms, there may well be no "transitioning journey" whatsoever.

Unless facilities like this stick to the Equality Act and keep biological men out of areas designated for women, for good reason, those areas will be mixed sexm

I'd have called police and said there was a man in the ladies changing room at x pool, exposing himself to women.

the removal of social taboos such as men entering female changing rooms is why you get this emboldened entitlement. You asked him politely to leave and he said no. Chances are he enjoyed the power trip.

This happens all the time now, wherever facilities have been designated 'gender neutral'.

I have come across four men in the past year who were using the 'former' ladies lavatory even though they were clearly male, not even pretending to be transwomen. They clearly enjoyed making women feel uncomfortable and reacted with faux surprise when challenged.

That was in response to Roses' and Crimplene's posts.

I would complain and complain big time. This is not acceptable in anyway. If this was a discrimination case I believe the facility would lose. Single sex facilities are allowed on the basis of privacy and dignity and where people of one sex would quite rightly be upset by the presence of someone of the opposite sex because they are naked. Add to this the fact that there are alternative unused facilities for the person to use they would struggle to be able to argue a case that the person had no other choices.

Exactly.

It's a power trip. Probably with added sexual kicks. Women, preferably upset ones, are necessary for the experience.

Women don't have to apologise for recognising a man as a man. Those who use language to confuse can deal with resolving the language issues.

No women to upset in the male changing room though.

Of course instead of making the women's changing mixed-sex, or taking up the family room or the accessible changing room, this person could just change in the male changing room. Given that they are male.

If they wish to act/live 'as a male' then how on earth do they think women's changing room is suitable for them?

Interestingly, I was asking only yesterday whether transmen use male facilities. Perhaps you can clarify? If not, why not?

The person could therefore be a female transitioning to be more masculine in appearance and legitimate in the female changing rooms ?

Trans men are generally fairly obviously women unless they've been taking hormones a long time and had breast removal surgery.

Why would a trans man go through all that and then claim to be a woman?

Don't talk soft. It's clear from the OP words and context that this was a male born person.

PEOPLE CAN TELL.

I see the men can be women, women can be men and no one can tell the difference posters are out in force across the threads this week.

Isn't it strange how women have to get their shit together with argument, observations and policy to challenge the absolute bloody obvious?

OP the removal of social taboos such as men entering female changing rooms is why you get this emboldened entitlement. You asked him politely to leave and he said no. Chances are he enjoyed the power trip.

Like PP said, raise hell. Not acceptable for any young girls who might be using the room.

This is why the EA needs clarification, otherwise women won't have a pot to piss in and will literally have to put up with their boundaries being walked over. Perhaps in this case, for the ego of the swimmer.

So you don't know the birth sex?

The person could therefore be a female transitioning to be more masculine in appearance and legitimate in the female changing rooms ?

You can't exclude females from the female space just because they don't look female enough

I think it's quite clear from the OP and the context that this was a male person. Getting ratty at OP for not using approved terms is a diversion tactic.

Kick up a stink if you feel able, OP.

He was getting kicks from the power he got you exert over you all.

Transitioning man = man who thinks he's turning into a woman is how I read it.

'a person who was obviously a man in a costume with stubble and hairy chest'

Suggests transwoman, no? A male 'in a costume'.

The title says transitioning man

Which I read as male wanting to be female

The opening line then talks about trans men

Perhaps op can clarify the (birth) sex

This. I’m outraged you had to deal with this OP. Please raise hell

OP, raise hell. Talk to everyone you can. Management, local authority, EHRC.

Write to the papers. Write to your MPs, representatives.

You have the right to a single sex space, as laid out in the EA. Women are NOT obliged to accept a male in a space where they are dressing or undressing.

Please do NOT let this stop you from swimming or exercise. It's outrageous.

https://sex-matters.org/

He's a man and you don't have to be coerced to pretend otherwise. It's an act if aggression on his part to try and make you. I'd make a formal complaint.

This is a scenario where any pervert can put on a woman's swimming costume and claim he is a woman. Complain and write a review. May be even contact your MP. And boycott them.