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"TW are women missing female body parts"

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TerfLady · 02/05/2023 22:45

If a transwoman is merely a woman missing body parts than by that logic women missing certain female body are transwomen.

Cancer survivors, menopause sufferers and women suffering from infertility and other womanly woes need to go to gender confirming clinics and demand their gender confirming rights and surgeries!

It's just that simple. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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TerfLady · 03/05/2023 17:50

Cosmosforbreakfast · 03/05/2023 17:24

I'm missing my right ovary, among other things. This now makes me a transwoman? These mentally ill men need to stop trying to come up with more and more excuses to obliterate women.

Yes I agree! And obviously you are entitled to gender affirming care. 😂

Back to my previously long winded post I wanted to add on that I think gender ideologues I think because of the huge time gaps between generations becoming pregnant it's easy to come to the conclusion that women and men are BASICALLY the same!

There was once a time women would experience her first birth in her early twenties and after that be far more likely to say "hell no we are not the same!" But now she is more likely to wait till her thirties and not really have to think about that reality for quite some time.

For those completely uninterested in children they can just opt out. A possibly that was once very unlikely unless she chose the life of a spinster which if I understand correctly was culturally frowned upon because it usually many financial disparity for some families and women.

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Cosmosforbreakfast · 03/05/2023 17:24

I'm missing my right ovary, among other things. This now makes me a transwoman? These mentally ill men need to stop trying to come up with more and more excuses to obliterate women.

TerfLady · 03/05/2023 17:10

I have a theory that's a bit wild but I'm not sure it's entirely relevant.

I feel like a big part of it is an unintended consequence of birth control.

And please I am 100% for birth control mind you!

But my generation of people are waiting much longer to have kids, having far less children and many are opting out completely. Particularly these gender ideology groups.

I think this huge gap creates gaps of knowledge and understanding of our biology and how it has shaped our culture.

Take for example back in the day many women were encouraged to create textiles, learn to sew or do activists that would help them contribute to society in a way that didn't involve a great deal of physical activity. Those activities were saved for men.

It is easy for us to consider this unfair in our day and age and even sexist.

My young 20's self definitely agreed this was sexist. Until I got pregnant at 31 and was forced to think about it more deeply.

The thing I didn't know about were the dreaded consequences of the pregnancy hormone relaxin. It competely wrecked my body. I was so weak my back would hurt after walking for five minutes.It took me two years to bounce back partially because of the time consuming demands of breastfeeding. Something someone could not have explained to my young self even if they tried.

Back then women were pregnant almost constantly. What were you going to do in a "not sexist" society? Encourage them to go hunting while pregnant or postpartum?

Also is it fair to allow a young girl to learn a male activity when you know it's likely she will have little to no time to enjoy it as an adult and could be learning something she could likely learn to enjoy that she could do as an adult? These times weren't sexist they were just impacted very differently by our female biology!

There is also the increasingly lowering tolerance of children in a post birth control society. I see many people my age debating about whether or not it's selfish to have children. For my parents generation it was very much the opposite. Not only was parenthood praised and celebrated it was considered the most selfless thing you can do!

Children are increasingly not tolerated by adults in public because quite frankly we are just seeing less and less of them so when they do encounter them they don't know how to cope like they used to. I remember when landlords hated pets and loved families with children. Now landlords hate children and love couples with pets.

So is it really a wonder that there are more and more people that are extremely disconnected from our natural bodies and how they work?

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Boiledbeetle · 03/05/2023 16:59

waterlego · 03/05/2023 16:43

I have a non-binary cat. He was neutered when young and then sometime later had to have his penis removed due to a medical issue. He has no penis, balls nor vagina or uterus. He is truly gender-neutral.

Strangely though, the vet still refers to said cat as ‘he’. The audacity of the vet thinking he understands mammalian biology just because he did a 6 year degree! 🙄

Oh the poor little thing. Misses rest of post as feeling sorry for poor little fluffy having to have his penis removed.

Don't supposed you want my neighbours cat. He's still got his (although not his balls) and humps everything in sight given half a chance.

waterlego · 03/05/2023 16:43

Circumferences · 03/05/2023 02:23

I got both my cats neutered to stop them breeding with each other.... I've obviously absolutely NO idea which one is the male or female cat anymore....

I have a non-binary cat. He was neutered when young and then sometime later had to have his penis removed due to a medical issue. He has no penis, balls nor vagina or uterus. He is truly gender-neutral.

Strangely though, the vet still refers to said cat as ‘he’. The audacity of the vet thinking he understands mammalian biology just because he did a 6 year degree! 🙄

turbonerd · 03/05/2023 16:38

They can’t really though, without coming across as right eejits I’m afraid.
Which is why Ryan (f) Webb is what he says he is!

And mr Walsh’s video was marvellous. I have only watched a few Clips with mr Walsh but in all of those he has been polite, rational, calm and logical. Even compassionate.

I may not align with all the aliens under the Sun, but I do agree with anyone who says it that you cannot change your sex.

Fimofriend · 03/05/2023 16:37

This world is full of people .... Wait! Am I allowed to call them that? ...... Eerrm ... The world is so full of ... individuals? Entities? Anyway, ...... The world is full of ___ who are so open-minded that their brains have fallen out.

HooverIsAlwaysBroken · 03/05/2023 16:29

I am so confused…

why can transwomen be allowed to tell other transwomen that they are not allowed to be called that? (Specify what others are called without consequences)

but women cannot even ask to be called women? (Define themselves) ?

Chersfrozenface · 03/05/2023 15:53

Boiledbeetle · 03/05/2023 15:13

Honestly if you pair have no wisdom teeth that surely means you've evolved into a superior form of human. Although 👽 is still a possibility.

Either is fine by me. I believe from the above post that @turbonerd feels similarly.

Although having my identity as a superior form of human officially recognised might be easier.

Unless I can get some form of diplomatic credentials as an alien.

Boiledbeetle · 03/05/2023 15:13

Honestly if you pair have no wisdom teeth that surely means you've evolved into a superior form of human. Although 👽 is still a possibility.

turbonerd · 03/05/2023 13:43

Chersfrozenface · 03/05/2023 10:34

I have no wisdom teeth at all.

Not that they haven't erupted - there are none in my jaw, they don't exist.

I did tell one dentist I was therefore an alien or a superior form of human.

Me neither!

I like the idea of being an alien. 😁
or simply a further evolved humanoid.
Fellow super human, I salute you. In a non-fascist/nazi way, of course.

VitaminX · 03/05/2023 12:26

Oh sorry, I mean in the fallopian tubes of course. It's even before you make it to the womb!

VitaminX · 03/05/2023 12:24

All of my body parts are female, 100%. Not just my reproductive organs and my breasts. My ears are female, my knees are female, my spleen is female.

If you are "assigned" male in the womb when a sperm carrying a Y chromosome fertilises the egg, 100% of your body parts are male and you don't have a female cell in your body.

We're mammals, not Lego figures.

Chersfrozenface · 03/05/2023 10:34

Boiledbeetle · 03/05/2023 00:52

So, I've still got all my womanly body parts.

But I'm missing my appendix, adenoids, tonsils, wisdom teeth, and part of my bowel, (and probably something else that's I've forgotten has been removed)

What does that make me? I'm not a whole human

I have no wisdom teeth at all.

Not that they haven't erupted - there are none in my jaw, they don't exist.

I did tell one dentist I was therefore an alien or a superior form of human.

turbonerd · 03/05/2023 10:24

It is a very Dr Frankenstein

(autocarrot wanted Frankenweenie, but I fought it an won. I hope)

view on the body.
We are whole organisms, not pick n mix!

I think Rachel Dolezelal (spelling?) is owed an apology soon, and I don’t say that to be faecitious.
Many have tried to point out that «trans-racialism» is indeed happening all the time, and have been shouted down as racists.

It is important for me to point out that I don’t say this to underminer the very real exploitation and discrimination people have faced and still face because of the colour of their skin, but to emphasize that it IS a made up thing. Made up to justify atrocities and abuse by the peach-coloured overlords*
but still completely fabricated.

*peach-coloured is from the very diverse primary my kids went to 10 years ago in Surrey.

Tinysoxx · 03/05/2023 10:22

This is so screwed up. I thought the bible taught us the first woman was made from a man’s spare rib?

nilsmousehammer · 03/05/2023 10:11

Males are females missing female body parts?

Well yes. Female DNA in their cells for starters, that's why they're male. 🙄

turbonerd · 03/05/2023 09:05

Helleofabore · 03/05/2023 08:49

I am glad that you noted you were using the female Ryan there turbo. Very important.

I may be a bigoted, transphobic, genocidal racist, fascist nazi hyena, but I do try to make sure I use the correctly Gendered version of names.

I have manners!

Helleofabore · 03/05/2023 09:01

OP. Of course it is a ridiculous and offensive notion. And it is up there on the emotional manipulation scale along trying to wedge in that black women and lesbians are valid comparators for males using female single sex spaces (or for discussions about adjectives, or most of life’s aspects really) .

It is always better to nip those spirals to nowhere off at the bud and go straight to a bodily formation meaning.

A female human has a body formed around the production of large gametes, whether that gamete production has worked now, has ever worked or will ever work. Female humans will never have the body formation to produce small gametes at any stage of the body’s development.

Helleofabore · 03/05/2023 08:49

I am glad that you noted you were using the female Ryan there turbo. Very important.

turbonerd · 03/05/2023 08:46

PurpleBugz · 03/05/2023 00:10

This is one of the best things.
The whole set up of people criticising Ryan (f) for self identifying.
They did not like it! Not one bit!

BlackeyedSusan · 03/05/2023 08:26

Missing female body parts?

They're missing a whole female body.

Hoardasurass · 03/05/2023 07:21

This seems apt

"TW are women missing female body parts"
Hagosaurus · 03/05/2023 06:13

Catabogus get away with your logic and sense 😁

If every male part of a transwoman was removed, there’d be nothing left! All my body parts are female, every cell. Imagine anyone thinking only the breasts and genitalia mattered

Catabogus · 03/05/2023 03:50

Surely, SURELY, it’s transmen who are “women missing body parts”?

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