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Multiple Sclerosis video features transwoman's anecdote of getting an erection

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crsacre · 01/05/2023 19:09

Video for Multiple Sclerosis Awareness Week, on dealing with emotions:
https://www.youtube.com/live/KDa0bNlUMk8?feature=share&t=3450

A transwoman with MS talked about the need to find humour in medical situations by recounting getting an erection during an X-Ray because the female nurse was attractive. This person is an educational psychologist at the University of Southampton.
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/people/5xm59k/doctor-cora-sargeant

MS is a debilitating disease with horrible symptoms. Why did the MS Trust feature this particular experience? MS affects more women than men. Even men who have MS are unlikely to have had this experience.

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oldwomanwhoruns · 03/05/2023 08:11

Ignore my last post, you were referring to the man on the right. Just one man.

oldwomanwhoruns · 03/05/2023 08:05

I didn't take much notice of the interviewer. But several posters above say that this was actually another man.

That explains why the interview was so very 'off'. It was just two blokes making coarse jokes at the expense of a young woman.

zen1 · 03/05/2023 07:28

I watched it before the original link was taken down. As a parent of a vulnerable child with SEN who has interactions with Ed Psychs, it makes my blood run cold to see a person in this profession (or any profession where dealing with children is part of their job) take pleasure in publicly discussing their sexual arousal. How is this okay?

bellinisurge · 03/05/2023 06:45

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Clymene · 02/05/2023 23:15

BonfireLady · 02/05/2023 22:42

Ah, thank you for trying @ArabeIIaScott

It's interesting that they've put it back up without the section in question but with no commentary on why it's changed @EmotionalwreckMSer

Hopefully there is an archived copy somewhere and someone who can do a spot the difference compilation. That would be quite a talking point.

I haven't watched it but I would hope that nobody (Cora or anyone else) has received any abuse. Debate and challenging questions, yes but abuse no. Yes, that's a naively utopian view of online life 😁

Why would you think there's been any online abuse?

Sargeant isn't on very limited social media like a lot of transwomen in senior positions. Unlike most women in senior positions though, his LinkedIn profile is an anime character.
He has a lot of name checking on Twitter for fine and upstanding work on trans children though

mstrust.org.uk/get-involved/ms-awareness-week the link is still broken here where Sargeant is one of two experts they talk to on the podcast.

BonfireLady · 02/05/2023 22:42

Ah, thank you for trying @ArabeIIaScott

It's interesting that they've put it back up without the section in question but with no commentary on why it's changed @EmotionalwreckMSer

Hopefully there is an archived copy somewhere and someone who can do a spot the difference compilation. That would be quite a talking point.

I haven't watched it but I would hope that nobody (Cora or anyone else) has received any abuse. Debate and challenging questions, yes but abuse no. Yes, that's a naively utopian view of online life 😁

StrawberryWasp · 02/05/2023 22:23

I think Southampton Uni have removed Cora's contact details?

I hope this means they are aware.

But I also hope Cora has not received any abuse.

StrawberryWasp · 02/05/2023 22:16

I hope Cora is aware that it's been cut and why.

EmotionalwreckMSer · 02/05/2023 22:16

ArabeIIaScott · 02/05/2023 22:11

I'm glad they've at least acknowledged how inappropriate that was.

No acknowledgment, they took down the original video after it got highlighted here, took out the totally inappropriate funny story, posted it again and so far not a peep. Almost like it never happened 🤔

ArabeIIaScott · 02/05/2023 22:11

I'm glad they've at least acknowledged how inappropriate that was.

ArabeIIaScott · 02/05/2023 22:10

Sorry, Bonfire. It didn't take. Maybe someone else got it.

EmotionalwreckMSer · 02/05/2023 22:10

ArabeIIaScott · 02/05/2023 22:04

I tried to but gave up - pc issues. Hold on, will see if I got any of it.

The video is back, but they have cut out the funny story at about 55 min. New link

Breaking it down live - MS: your emotions and feelings

In this live podcast from MS Awareness week, we're talked all things MS, emotions and feelings.We were super excited to be joined by two excellent guests: - ...

https://youtu.be/-mlw-yanpFo

ArabeIIaScott · 02/05/2023 22:04

BonfireLady · 02/05/2023 19:29

I wonder if anyone archived it before it got taken down 🤞🤞
I didn't get chance to see it but from the OP's post and other comments, it sounds like it would be a very useful way to demonstrate the removal of personal boundaries where the unwitting involvement of a nurse in a GAP (please rearrange the acronym) fetish is what a charity would like to be known for. Sounds pretty grim.

I tried to but gave up - pc issues. Hold on, will see if I got any of it.

bellinisurge · 02/05/2023 22:03

Yeah. Just watched it. That creep with his big hands and his Adams apple can fuck off.

EmotionalwreckMSer · 02/05/2023 22:01

its the same one, but they clipped out the “funny” story at round 55min

bellinisurge · 02/05/2023 21:27

It's either a new one up or they are running it again. I'll watch it later. I rely so much on the MS Trust. The creep is still on it. If it's still got this shit, I will kick off.

StrawberryWasp · 02/05/2023 19:43

Cora Sergeant is regulated by the Health Care Professional Council.

I'm not sure how this would sit with professional conduct? This would be true for any man who talked like this publically.

I also hope Cora's colleague's are aware of these concerns given he works with young women.

BonfireLady · 02/05/2023 19:29

I wonder if anyone archived it before it got taken down 🤞🤞
I didn't get chance to see it but from the OP's post and other comments, it sounds like it would be a very useful way to demonstrate the removal of personal boundaries where the unwitting involvement of a nurse in a GAP (please rearrange the acronym) fetish is what a charity would like to be known for. Sounds pretty grim.

FrancescaContini · 02/05/2023 15:31

The Ed psychologist was the Southampton university woman?

oldwomanwhoruns · 02/05/2023 15:10

And the 'Educational Psychologist' was smiling and nodding along with this man, as he recounted his growing excitement at being in a small space with an attractive young nurse.

If anyone ever doubted that Autogynephiles were a Thing, this video should have made their existence crystal clear.

Presumably our Watchers have reported our interest, hence the video now being made private.

dimorphism · 02/05/2023 14:47

oldwomanwhoruns · 02/05/2023 08:44

I've just watched that video clip.
That horrible man.
He thinks that the whole incident was 'fun' and 'funny'.

This is why we need to get these men out of our spaces. They have zero respect or empathy for women. That think that we are things, not people. He is dressed up as a woman, making fun of us. Gross.

This. The video appears to have gone but the only possible reason to recount this experience is to intimidate and bully. What possible other reason could there be? Again using unconsenting women as props.

wantmorenow · 02/05/2023 14:41

Links don't work for me? Has it been taken down?

RoyalCorgi · 02/05/2023 14:31

If you want to convince everyone that you're a woman, and you feel like a woman inside and out (and this person does pass better than a lot of trans women), then why would you want to share with the world a story that serves only to remind people that you're male?

FrancescaContini · 02/05/2023 13:14

EveryWitchWaybutLoose · 02/05/2023 11:33

The poor nurse, being objectified while doing her job. It’s pretty rank to feature this in a public information video. Is there an email address to write to complain? It’s akin to sexual harassment.

Agree

EmotionalwreckMSer · 02/05/2023 12:36

I signed up for this live stream because I am struggling with my emotions due to MS. I was expecting, and hoping, that I would come away with at least one tip to help me deal with this symptom, that at times is out of control, but there is no other readily available treatment for.

I was disappointed that an example only 49% of the population, less if you factor in fewer men are diagnosed with MS, when I got to this part. How exclusionary and entitled of him! There are so many other embarrassing symptoms affecting both sexes that could’ve been used as an example. Both sexes will experience bladder and bowel issues, these will often cause humiliating experience. Why not find a “Funny“ anecdote about b&b dysfunction rather than penis?

I am pleased to see the MS trust have taken the video down.

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