Transwoman wins women's US cycling race & gets $35k prize

It's never excellent male cyclists who could continue to do well in the men's race, is it? For some reason.

A nice fantasy is of an excellent male cyclist saying he is trans, winning a big women’s race, then a full glare of publicity handing the trophy to the first runner up female cyclist.

Shame on these ‘incycle’ loser MEN (adult human males) claiming these championships from women.

It's supposedly a review of mainly peer-reviewed studies, but it's not peer reviewed itself and I can't see the author(s) listed anywhere.

https://www.cces.ca/sites/default/files/content/docs/pdf/transgenderwomenathletesandelitesport-ascientificreview-e-final.pdf

I noticed that it does mention Joanna Harper's research as 'evidence' that men with low testosterone have no advantage over women in sport:

The limited available evidence examining the effect of testosterone suppression as it directly affects trans women’s athletic performance showed no athletic advantage exists after one year of testosterone suppression (Harper, 2015; Roberts et al., 2020; Harper, 2020)

I think the allegation about doping referred to the other man, who won the men's race?

@ScrollingLeaves

Trans women athletes have no unfair advantage under current rules, report finds

I wonder who the lead researchers are? How have they come to such a perverse conclusion, when every decent study has concluded the exact opposite?

Perhaps Horatio Nelson has looked at the data; "Differences? I see no differences..."

Depends how old she is and whether you think there could be change in future. There's always retakes for academics once past cycling. And could she swap later to triathlon? It would be a shame to let men spoil it for her before it becomes a reality that effects her.

You shouldn't be having to consider all that though do to cheating men.

Someone said he's been caught using drugs, if true, he's triply a cheat.
a) drugs
b) screwing women out of their places and prizes
c) bashing women competitors, to slow them down.

Whichever authority is allowing him to behave like that ought to be disbanded and the directors banned from any further involvement. They're a total disgrace.

Theft.

Exactly. The sheer misogyny of it. The organisers know exactly who a man is when it comes to giving out prize money.

Or - being more charitable than I'm feeling - they upped the prize for women to be fair, for once, and this cheater has taken it.

@Mumoftwoinprimary you should absolutely not let this stop your daughter doing what she loves most. Ultimately I have to believe that we will move forward to a point where trans people are visible and accepted as trans, without this focus on hiding their real selves and pretending. And I think the athletes will have a role in that, though i don't think it is all on them to do the work.

The biggest turning point would be football. I hope Gary Lineker bumps in to Sharron Davies at some point and has a natter about it all 🤞🤞🤞

AHH happy thoughts!

Wow. And just when the women's prize money is equal to the men's prize. Who would have guessed.

It’s this sort of thing that originally peaked me

I wonder how the male winner of the women’s race’s time compared to the male winner of the men’s race?

No need to google it, I think we all know the answer. It’s another “third rate male thinks winning a Women's race proves they are an amazing athlete, ” story

@Mumoftwoinprimary assuming you’re in the UK, British Cycling’s new transgender policy should be released soon. That should give you a good indication of which way the wind is blowing in cycling.

Becomimg a social pariah is major problem for people speaking out. Teammates, club mates etc don’t want to be seen with the “problematic woman”. It’s really hard and you have my sympathies

As the mother of a young, very good, cyclist things like this concern me a lot. Just not sure what I should be doing here. Are we letting her go down a completely pointless path?

I could steer her back into triathlon as British Triathlon has been very clear about its intentions. (My 9 year old son competed in the “Open” section yesterday at an event.) But for her triathlon is effectively “sport I quite like before the cycling, yay cycling, other sport I quite like after the cycling”.

Or we could just accept that sport is fucked and get her to focus on school. She is very clever but the cycling does interfere. She’s on a ferry at the moment on the way back from a big event. It should be that the only thing that limits her is what her legs can do and what her head can force her legs to do.

She shouldn’t be limited by some random officials who are too scared to say what they really know.

I think it's about times female athletes went on strike just like Drs and nurses. Their pay and especially their working conditions are shit.

If they went on strike who would the trans women have to compete against? Themselves and they may as well compete with men... Oh wait they can't because won't win gold because their testosterone levels have been hampered with. But not fiddled enough with to win gold at a women's race though.......

Every actual woman in that race is misranked. They should all be moved up one, more if other men raced.

This bit if trash journalism is from Canada.
There is even a phrase saying “cis women (born anatomically female)”.

It is based on scientific research. So how is that research getting it so wrong?

Trans women athletes have no unfair advantage under current rules, report finds | Cycling Weekly
www.cyclingweekly.com/news/trans-women-athletes-have-no-unfair-advantage-under-current-rules-study-finds

The men's race was won by a convicted doper.

Sadly it may have to come to a point where there is only men’s cycling and biological men who identify as women’s cycling. When the only people making teams are biological men, and no woman gets anywhere near it, there will be uproar.

Even more sadly, the uproar will be from
the MRAs who aren’t happy that their choices are now men or de facto trans women categories and there are no women involved. It probably won’t be from
society giving a fuck about women, will it?