Transwoman wins women's US cycling race & gets $35k prize

I would also like it explained to me how a testosterone policy is going to be implemented and policed.

The UCI has set the level at 2.5nmol/l. So who is going to check? How often does a male have to have blood tests to prove they are keeping it below that level? What’s to stop a male training with normal testosterone levels and then dropping them just before a scheduled blood test? Bridges said it happened in a week. Will these athletes have to submit to WADA-regulated out of hours/random testing/6am doorbell rings?

The answer of course is no. It will be an honesty policy. What could go wrong with that?🤨

Could this be another 'moment '?
We just need more of these.

Since when has MN had “sensitive content” warnings?! Is it because it contains a male who’s cheating, or is it the descriptive term “dick bulge” that got it a warning?

The telling thing IMO about the latest podium photo is the relative thickness of the quadricep muscles of the three medallists, it's absolute night and day on three contestants of seemingly broadly similar height and whatnot. the obvious advantage in power terms is glaring.

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This is a cracking article...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2023/05/02/british-cyclists-scared-trans-athletes-austin-killips/

And what Isla Bryant did for the imprisoned would-be female rapist community...!

Yes, I think what he will do for feminism will be analogous to what Harvey Weinstein did for the reputation of the film industry.

Looking at Austin's peachey pocket, I'm taken by SpookyFBI's comment that "women" is a term past it's Sell By Date, because it's impossible to encompass every woman's experience.

I'm sure Austin proudly displaying is the last thing anyone sane could ever have considered could belong in even the broadest, loosest definition of "women".

I would say it is worse because the dose of testosterone that men get in in puberty isn’t reversible by later testosterone suppression.

@hotdiggetydog Yes, congratulations for eliminating the whole point of sex based sports.

I fully support Austin going for the Olympics and Tour de France.

Austin is a powerhouse who can do great things for feminism.

'Canada's Olympic silver medallist Alison Sydor also criticised Killips' participation, saying it was "no different functionally than doping".'

'American three-time Olympian Inga Thompson said the UCI - cycling's global governing body - was "killing off women's cycling".'

'Congratulations to her, very happy for her'

Well said

What a smug pathetic cheat.

True. In that respect, yes, a good article.

I'm just so frustrated by the deliberately confusing language of this ideology.

Inga Thompson’s criticism features quite a lot in that BBC article:

American three-time Olympian Inga Thompson said the UCI - cycling's global governing body - was "killing off women's cycling".

Thompson told the Telegraph she expected Killips to "potentially go on" to compete in the Tour de France Femmes and the Paris Olympics, adding that "...women are just quietly walking away. They think, 'Why bother, if it's not fair?'".

And Alison Sydor:

Canada's Olympic silver medallist Alison Sydor also criticised Killips' participation, saying it was "no different functionally than doping".

What I like is the quotes from more than one female athlete and the description of consistent campaigning. So often these stories are written over and over as if nothing like this has ever happened before.

Not really. No mention at all that Killip is male. It's all "transgender women" and "she". There will be plenty of readers who interpret that article to mean that Killip is a female who identifies as a man, and therefore takes testosterone. But in order to compete in the female category has to keep their testosterone to an agreed level in order mot to be accused of doping.

The Telegraph has a brilliant new article about this from their chief sports writer demanding that the sports bodies act now before this hits the Olympics & the Tour de France. So many of the comments below are incandescent :

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2023/05/02/trans-cyclists-have-olympics-in-sights-no-one-can-stop-them/

OK thats a really good piece. Big hand to the Beeb.

This appeared about 50 mins ago:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/65456752

I would have brisk words for any girl crying over this before it's affected her directly tbh. I would be ABSOLUTELY clear that I didn't think this was right and that I would campaign for her rights. I might also tell her about Marie José Martinez Patiño, an athlete with the VSD of androgen insensitivity syndrome, who was raised female, suffered various indignities in trying to compete as a woman and who was on the IOC 2003 committee that started this entire process by saying that male people could compete in female sex classes in sport. I think it's important to understand other people's suffering while also being clear about unintended consequences of trying to impose single answers.

I know. It's absolutely grim.

It's not on the BBC website. This is a scandal. The BBC happy to be in on this.