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Who are you voting for

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fluckityfluckfluck · 30/04/2023 07:40

Genuinely can't see how I can vote at all....

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Exasperatednow · 05/05/2023 18:12

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Do you honestly think Conservatives care about women or are they just telling you what you want to hear?

See kemi badenoch's views on menopausal women.

NotHavingIt · 05/05/2023 11:51

I voted for the Lib Dem candidate, not because I'd ever vote for then in a general election, but because they are the best chance of reducing the power of the totally incompetent, corrupted Labour group in my city; who even Labour voters can't stomach.

RinklyRomaine · 05/05/2023 11:46

I spoilt my ballot as I have done every election for the last few years. Drew a cock and balls and wrote "don't expect my X if you don't respect my sex". Told the Labour and Lib Dem candidates loudly, and why, as they were loitering outside. It's not an easy thing to do but I know they are seen, I'm in a safe Labour area, and I cannot vote for her as she scoffs at my every email about women's rights. She's a woman of Asian extraction, just off maternity leave, representing a very ethnically diverse constituency and replaced a counsellor suspended for being unable to keep his hands out female staffers skirts, but won't stop chanting twaw. Nope.

WhiteFire · 05/05/2023 10:35

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Locally I vote based on what I feel is the best party / person to deal with local issues. Plus in my area a conservative vote is a wasted vote.

The Labour mayoral candidate won, this is somewhat an unexpected outcome, but shows people are (locally at least) swinging back to Labour.

Capitulatingpanda · 05/05/2023 09:58

I feel quite lucky that none of the big political parties ever get a look in at local elections. None of them have ever won a borough council election here. They don't even bother leafleting.

HewasH2O · 05/05/2023 09:48

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You must live in an echo chamber. I couldn't name a single person who has voted conservative.

Daydreamer123456 · 05/05/2023 09:24

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Always surprises me when people say something like this because ‘everyone they know’ is voting Tory.

68 million people in the UK.

When people can’t afford to their families or can’t get a GP apt if they’re ill, peoples priorities will be different.

SinisterBumFacedCat · 04/05/2023 23:59

First time not bothering, such a shame. Been voting Labour all my life. But they don’t know what I am, so it’s pointless.

OhhDawg · 04/05/2023 23:49

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caringcarer · 04/05/2023 23:31

I'm for the first time voting for an Independent candidate who has promised to make fixing potholes his priority. We have so many potholes that have appeared in the last 12 months.

Surplus2requirements · 04/05/2023 23:18

Exasperatednow · 04/05/2023 21:19

You do realise the new law essentially stops anyone protesting. You can't even link arms without it being considered disruptive.

You can still link arms so long as it doesn't inconvenience anyone and isn't too noisy. 😑

I'd rather have a government that allows me to disagree with them and make no bones about showing it.

For those voting for a party because they supposedly 'know what a women is' I'd ask who has been in power since the question has become an increasing threat to women's rights?

847arc · 04/05/2023 21:34

Conservative. They live and work in the community, are extremely proactive on local issues and are visible and approachable year-round.
Our Labour candidates only turn up a couple of weeks before the election, do a mass leaflet drop and then disappear back into obscurity again.
Haven’t even heard from the other candidates.

senua · 04/05/2023 21:30

I wrote on the paper what I thought of Labour and Greens policies re women. Probably nobody will read it but it made me feel better.

I go to the polling station because its my moral duty but it's a bit pointless because we are a very safe seat.

Backtobed · 04/05/2023 21:22

Conservative.

I cannot even fathom people voting for a party who refuse to acknowledge what a woman is.

Hawkins003 · 04/05/2023 21:20

No one,

Exasperatednow · 04/05/2023 21:19

MammaTo · 30/04/2023 11:24

Yes to be honest under these circumstances I probably wouldn’t vote at all, but maybe I’d be out protesting or trying to do something to be pro active in a different way. I know not everyone has this option but you’d have to try an do what you could.

You do realise the new law essentially stops anyone protesting. You can't even link arms without it being considered disruptive.

frauzen · 04/05/2023 21:18

I spoilt my ballot. I prevaricated over it but perhaps someone will see my tiny protest. My local patch is firmly Tory so a vote for anyone else would be a token at best but for the first time in my life I just couldn't vote Labour. I'm furious at the stance the Labour Party have on women's rights and depressed at the national tactics too. It's a very narrow con/lab marginal seat with an unpopular Tory incumbent here at general elections so Starmer and the local candidate have until then to prove they a)know what a woman is b) commit to protecting women's right properly c) stop throwing Rosie Duffield under passing vehicles and d) stop name calling and mud slinging before I consider voting Labour. I'm not holding my breath.

LadyJ2023 · 04/05/2023 21:04

Nobody voting in my family or extended

BettyfromBristol · 04/05/2023 21:03

The only candidate to knock on our door was the Labour man. It took four attempts at "What is a woman?" before he could stop shuffling his feet and blustering but he did manage to give a good biological description in the end. When I thanked him and said I was surprised that his answer was different to party policy he became a bit upset so I sent him away. Perhaps he was worried I'd tell on him?

Still spoilt my vote though, as did DH who is even more GC than me. The choice here is Tory or LibDem, the Greens and Labour rarely get more than a few votes.

ChristinaXYZ · 04/05/2023 20:46

Aspergirl77 · 04/05/2023 20:37

Before going in to vote tonight I approached the three gormless rosetted goons outside the polling station (1 each from labour, green and independent) and asked if they could answer a simple question to help me decide who to vote for. Of course the question was ‘what is a woman?’. All 3 of the goons were stunned into silence and I had to repeat myself, several times before the independent candidate starting mumbling something vague about ‘feelings’ and ‘knowing’ and the green confessed he believed trans women are women, so I continued to ask him to define exactly what that - a woman - is, and he couldn’t. So I gave them the ‘adult human female’ definition and the independent asked ‘well what about the opposite?’ And I replied ‘you mean a man? That’s an adult human male!’. Meanwhile the labour candidate just stood with an inane grin on his face so I asked him if he agreed with Keir Starmer’s view that 99.9% of women don’t have penises and 0.1% do. No answer! After that I told them I wouldn’t be voting for any of them 😂The only party that knew what a woman is were the conservatives, as I had emailed all the candidates last week asking the same question and they were the only ones who replied, with ‘adult human female’ as the answer!

Actually that's the best response I've seen to this question. I will be voting Conservative myself because I think women will be lost under Labour and I want them to get the message loud and clear that they won't get my vote in the next GE because of it.

But if I could not stomach voting Tory then asking all the rosettes the question as you did and saying the one who got the answer correct (as per a biology O level) would have got my vote but none of you did so I am leaving without voting, turn on your heel and go, would be far more effective than spoiling your ballot. Sadly you'd have to feel safe enough to do it.

Aspergirl77 · 04/05/2023 20:37

Before going in to vote tonight I approached the three gormless rosetted goons outside the polling station (1 each from labour, green and independent) and asked if they could answer a simple question to help me decide who to vote for. Of course the question was ‘what is a woman?’. All 3 of the goons were stunned into silence and I had to repeat myself, several times before the independent candidate starting mumbling something vague about ‘feelings’ and ‘knowing’ and the green confessed he believed trans women are women, so I continued to ask him to define exactly what that - a woman - is, and he couldn’t. So I gave them the ‘adult human female’ definition and the independent asked ‘well what about the opposite?’ And I replied ‘you mean a man? That’s an adult human male!’. Meanwhile the labour candidate just stood with an inane grin on his face so I asked him if he agreed with Keir Starmer’s view that 99.9% of women don’t have penises and 0.1% do. No answer! After that I told them I wouldn’t be voting for any of them 😂The only party that knew what a woman is were the conservatives, as I had emailed all the candidates last week asking the same question and they were the only ones who replied, with ‘adult human female’ as the answer!

Surplus2requirements · 04/05/2023 19:52

Unfortunately spoiling ballots doesn't achieve anything, whatever you write eg none of the above counts for nothing.

Rejected ballots are counted but only as one of four categories.

  • absence of official mark [polling station stamp]
  • voting for more than one candidate
  • writing or mark by which the voter could be identified
  • unmarked or void for uncertainty

A deliberately spoiled ballot goes into the last category and no candidates will see them whatever is written

Rockingcloggs · 04/05/2023 19:32

No voting in my area of Doncaster North this time. Labour would get back in though and do absolutely fuck all, the same as they have done since day dot.

I will never vote Labour whilst ever I have breath in my body.

Marchintospring · 04/05/2023 19:19

Tory stronghold here. I don’t mind them. Services are no better or worse than anyone else’s. I actually voted for my friend who Lib Dem and for the Conservative candidate because the Lib Dems here are quite bonkers ( they need to be “exciting”) to run against the Conservatives.

MavisMcMinty · 04/05/2023 19:12

Completely forgot it’s local elections day, only remembered when I saw this thread. I’d obviously never forget (or be allowed to forget) a general election. Makes no difference if I vote in this awful Tory stronghold anyway, in locals or a GE. Bring in PR, or my vote will never count.

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