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AdultHumanFemale - Edinburgh - 26 Apr

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 26/04/2023 16:59

Anyone going?

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Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2023 13:20

https://twitter.com/HolyroodDaily/status/1651555508011114499?s=19I

Yesterday's inability to watch the film discussed in Holyrood

https://twitter.com/HolyroodDaily/status/1651555508011114499?s=19

NancyDrawed · 27/04/2023 12:35

MishyJDI · 27/04/2023 09:39

No. But trans women are not the threat that people are trying to make them out as.

they are such a small minority. Leave them be and stop seeing them as an existential threat when they are simply not.

hope that helps.

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Mishy, please can you tell me how transwomen are not male?

Because I am firmly of the belief that while most men are not a threat to women and girls, some men are, so ALL men should abide by the social contract and stay out of women's single sex (female, for the avoidance of doubt) spaces.

Transwomen are male even if they don't see themselves as men, therefore should stay out of female only spaces.

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2023 12:17

https://twitter.com/Aja02537920/status/1651493198869458946?s=19

Please watch this it is from Aja the Empress, one of the women who appeared in the film, talking about yesterday.

https://twitter.com/Aja02537920/status/1651493198869458946?s=19

Eyesofdisarray · 27/04/2023 11:35

Mishy- you are very negative and very very rude

SnowAndIcicles · 27/04/2023 10:54

I just watched the film for the first time because of all the fuss at Edinburgh University yesterday, so thanks for the nudge.

It's really well put together, very factual and indeed it's made me more determined to get involved in feminism. It's important that people become aware of what is happening.

SallyLockheart · 27/04/2023 10:35

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 22:23

The more I watch this film, the more I realise that women’s rights is the hill I’m willing to die on.

Just listened to the film- I think it might be my hill too. Well argued and presented discussion

Helleofabore · 27/04/2023 10:04

on noesss!

I composed something celebrating Nick Cave and lost it. Not going back to recreate it.

Helleofabore · 27/04/2023 10:02

IamTheActualNickCavemaybebutprobablynot · 27/04/2023 09:48

Bollocks forgot to change name again!

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Sunnava · 27/04/2023 09:56

Redbird87 · 27/04/2023 05:21

Terfness isn't spread by terfs, each one is the result of a woman either directly abused by people like this or who have witnessed others ripped to shreds, called names anyone else would have their teeth knocked out for, or even facing deaths threats.

I was for trans rights when I was transmasc, until people like this mocked me for being abused by a tw and I noticed how common it is for even "queer" women to be thrown under the bus in the name of centering men.

Every "terf" (MOST not even radical feminists!) is the result of a light bulb moment like that. No one looks at the vitriol being sent to us and thinks that's a fun way to go about life, be reasonable.

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Great post, thank you.

AmuseBish · 27/04/2023 09:49

MishyJDI · 27/04/2023 09:39

No. But trans women are not the threat that people are trying to make them out as.

they are such a small minority. Leave them be and stop seeing them as an existential threat when they are simply not.

hope that helps.

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Mishy wants males to not have access to female spaces?
I knew you were a terf all along, Mish! Although most terfs are able to say what a woman is, so you've got a bit of training to do (don't worry, it's very simple)! GrinWink

Shelefttheweb · 27/04/2023 09:48

MishyJDI · 27/04/2023 09:39

No. But trans women are not the threat that people are trying to make them out as.

they are such a small minority. Leave them be and stop seeing them as an existential threat when they are simply not.

hope that helps.

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Transwomen are five times more likely to be incarcerated for sex offences than other men.

IamTheActualNickCavemaybebutprobablynot · 27/04/2023 09:48

Bollocks forgot to change name again!

IamTheActualNickCavemaybebutprobablynot · 27/04/2023 09:47

MishyJDI · 27/04/2023 09:39

No. But trans women are not the threat that people are trying to make them out as.

they are such a small minority. Leave them be and stop seeing them as an existential threat when they are simply not.

hope that helps.

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You are right a lot of transwomen probably aren't a threat But as we keep all men out of female spaces because it's recognised that it's not possible to differentiate between the safe men and the men with bad intentions in my opinion that includes the men who for whatever reason, good or bad, declare themselves a woman and demand access to female spaces.

And honestly from a safety point of view I find the fact that some men, now identifying as women, are so adament they get into our spaces that I can't help but think they have other reasons than just wanting to pee for being in there.

We can't tell the good transwomen from the bad transwomen so like the rest of the men they can all stay out of the single sex women's spaces.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 27/04/2023 09:44

Trans women are the gateway for men to access women’s spaces.

MishyJDI · 27/04/2023 09:39

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 23:35

Sorry - as I said, I’m new to the board, so please be kind. But it seems that Mishy wants males to have access to female spaces. Am I reading this correctly?

No. But trans women are not the threat that people are trying to make them out as.

they are such a small minority. Leave them be and stop seeing them as an existential threat when they are simply not.

hope that helps.

Redbird87 · 27/04/2023 05:21

MishyJDI · 26/04/2023 21:13

It’s probably a good thing as it stops social contagion of terfness to the general population. There is enough out there already spreading fear and derision

Terfness isn't spread by terfs, each one is the result of a woman either directly abused by people like this or who have witnessed others ripped to shreds, called names anyone else would have their teeth knocked out for, or even facing deaths threats.

I was for trans rights when I was transmasc, until people like this mocked me for being abused by a tw and I noticed how common it is for even "queer" women to be thrown under the bus in the name of centering men.

Every "terf" (MOST not even radical feminists!) is the result of a light bulb moment like that. No one looks at the vitriol being sent to us and thinks that's a fun way to go about life, be reasonable.

Boiledbeetle · 26/04/2023 23:47

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 23:35

Sorry - as I said, I’m new to the board, so please be kind. But it seems that Mishy wants males to have access to female spaces. Am I reading this correctly?

I've changed back to my real name rather than Nick Cave so you know who you are talking to.

@MishyJDI will I'm sure be happy to tell you themselves where they sit on certain topics.

But it is safe to say the majority are not in agreement with a lot of the viewpoints Mishy has on topics.

EdinburghName · 26/04/2023 23:38

I've just come across Alumni for Free Speech https://affs.uk/ which looks as though it may be of interest to some Edinburgh alums here. I don't know anything about it though.

Home - Alumni for Free Speech

Our universities, once great champions of free speech, academic freedom & diversity of viewpoint, are increasingly becoming their opponents. Join AFFS. ✅

https://affs.uk

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 23:35

Sorry - as I said, I’m new to the board, so please be kind. But it seems that Mishy wants males to have access to female spaces. Am I reading this correctly?

IamTheActualNickCavemaybebutprobablynot · 26/04/2023 23:32

Isn't it!

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 23:24

yourhairiswinterfire · 26/04/2023 22:08

There is enough out there already spreading fear and derision

Says Mishy, who comes to this board and laughs about male violence against women.

OMG - that’s truly abhorrent.

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 22:31

I wonder why aggressive people are trying to intimidate women to prevent them from watching it…

IamTheActualNickCavemaybebutprobablynot · 26/04/2023 22:30

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 22:23

The more I watch this film, the more I realise that women’s rights is the hill I’m willing to die on.

It's definitely the hill I've chosen

PopGoesTheProsecco · 26/04/2023 22:23

The more I watch this film, the more I realise that women’s rights is the hill I’m willing to die on.

IamTheActualNickCavemaybebutprobablynot · 26/04/2023 22:21

ArabeIIaScott · 26/04/2023 22:06

😍

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I'm stuck with it now for the entire thread! No one will know who is actually responsible for my witty remarks!