If this tweet from Womb haulier is correct, the University paid the protestors!!

https://twitter.com/Gillian_Philip/status/1652619341769187328?s=20

It’s almost as if research from the University recognises there’s a difference between the sexes…
https://twitter.com/edinburghuni/status/1650817177799258112?s=46&t=5tHsrgY5T97exTqeFD4LWg

I'd hope of course that the expulsion option was reserved for actual expellable offenses.

But we have definitely gone too far the other way in universities. These effectively children are wielding a level of power that is not acceptable in a civilised society.

God i sound like my grandmother!

But it's only as you get older i think that one starts to realise why we have so many of the unwritten rules we have in order to achieve a democratic society. And today's youth, unless it is written down in 280 character chunks of information and explicitly explained to them that decent people don't do 'that', whatever that is at any given time, they have no idea of societal norms like previous generations.

Perhaps a warning first, the tras could be forgiven for thinking they'd get another pass, particularly as members of the faculty were also participating, but then kick 'em out. They can have their fees refunded as I'm feeling generous 😏

That if any students did stop the second protest going ahead the punishments to that would be x, y or z. With the most serious punishment being expulsion.

@Boiledbeetle Ah OK - there should definitely be consequences.

Seriously! Above comment was Boiledbeetle!

Grrrrrrf! I hate mn at times

Oh I'm not saying that should be the universities first stop. I'm not even saying the students can't protest. However having had the screening interrupted once it was on the university to explain that that wouldn't be tolerated a second time, that the students could protest but that they were not to prevent the screening going ahead. That if any students did stop the second protest going ahead the punishments to that would be x, y or z. With the most serious punishment being expulsion.

University in my day had a code of conduct of sorts, behaviour that was expected of their students in order to remain on their course. I would have been thrown out had I overstepped the line. But these days there is no bloody line at at all.

But the university did nothing.

The social contagion of women wanting rights. And a political movement so very afraid of those uppity women sharing information because they know their only hope is to depend on lies and ignorance . A population in happy deluded ignorance.

It's a bit sad really. The information's already escaped.

Out of curiosity, Mishi, what would your stance be if it were exactly the other way around? So if a trans group made a film about trans rights and feminists turned out en masse twice to physically stop trans people from being allowed to watch it?
I admit it's a bit of a nonsensical question as its only ever trans activists stopping feminist meetings. I've never seen it the other way around.
But would you still think that would be fair?

I disagree about expelling people. I don’t want to see individuals, especially young undergraduates, kicked out for this in however reprehensible I personally find their behaviour. The fault lies with the university culture. The leadership has shown themselves woefully ill-equipped to deal with this challenge and to promote freedom of conscience, expression and assembly as non-negotiable values.

And there go the eyebrows again 😮

By all accounts that is exactly what they did 🎂

I would like to express my extreme disappointment that last night, for the second time in six months, we were left with no alternative but to stop the screening of 'Adult Human Female' because of safety concerns for attendees.

FFS they start off with a lie. Of course they could have had the screening. They knew what happened the first time. Yet they did nothing to stop it happening again. And when it did happen again it was just 'oh well there's nothing we can do'.

Well for starters having let it happen a second time they could have got security to remove the people blocking the entrance. They could have formed a path through to allow the women to attend. They could have insisted all the protesters either allow entrance or they would be removed from their courses.

But once again they allowed women to be heckled and bullied and misrepresented and stopped from going to watch a film they had tickets for.

So they can stick their statement where the sun doesn't shine.

Can anyone there confirm that this is correct, the university security put up barriers protecting the tra-gits who were blocking the entrances!?

https://twitter.com/soppystern/status/1651272526457192462?s=20

Sorry, if this has been covered upthread.

The statement issued by the University is very wishy-washy. They need to start expelling some people.

And finally. Ahem! Indulge me

🎂 cake!!!

Sorry.

@MishyJDI "Transwomen are five times more likely to be incarcerated for sex offences than other men." Perhaps therefore a reason that women don't want them in the safe spaces.

Don't you mean following facts such as you cannot change your sex and that sex genomes are in every cell of the body. Yes you can change your gender but you cannot actually become a woman if you were born a male and vice versus regardless of how many bits you chop off or add. Pumping mixed up teenagers with hormone suppressors and suggesting they can change sex is very dominating too.

One day people will look back at the erasure of women and how some men and female handmaidens want to stop them talking, having opinions and stating facts.

Not good enough. Why were security not supporting women? Why were staff networks allowed to encourage preventing the screening? It smacks of ‘oh dear, did it happen again? What a shame.’

OK response from the Principal. Not quite as strong as I’d like, but generally taking the right line:

https://www.ed.ac.uk/news/staff/2023/statement-from-the-principal

https://twitter.com/ForWomenScot/status/1651568509200093184?cxt=HHwWgMC-keGzxustAAAA

Joanna Cherry raised this in the HoC.

Kind of irritated, although didn’t surprise me, that Useless mentioned he is all for trans rights and neglected to say he is also for women’s rights

You’d think but these people are often very convinced of their own righteousness

I have watched it live, twice, and with the directors talking afterwards.
As I recall, they are happy for it to be shown in public - it’s just a case of finding a good venue and ensuring the audience can gather without mobs gathering

Where are public screenings of the film advertised? Sure I can watch it on youtube but I would also like to exercise my right to watch it at a venue.

Watching the film now. Very informative for a newbie I imagine. No wonder the nutters wanted to stop it.