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The tide has turned in the lesbian capital of the UK

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littleripper · 24/04/2023 21:34

I was shocked but delighted to see this on the HebWeb, Hebden Bridge's community website.
https://www.hebdenbridge.co.uk/forum/2023/006.html
Sadly the letter by Dave Boardman (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11130491/Music-academy-lecturer-sacked-comments-drag-queens-femininity-takes-legal-action.html Cathy's dad) has been removed due to legal threats but the comments are still up

Lecturer 'sacked for suggesting drag acts are a gross caricature'

Cathy Boardman, a former lecturer in cultural studies at a Brighton music college, claims she has been forced out of her job after she asked her class to reflect on whether 'womanface' is demeaning.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11130491/Music-academy-lecturer-sacked-comments-drag-queens-femininity-takes-legal-action.html

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BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 25/04/2023 09:01

Things done out of fear of reprisals is not real either. How many flags and posters are being flown because people are too scared to not show support. How many of those anon women commenting fly flags because they fear reprisals if they don't.

This is me. I am one of the people who fears reprisal living in this town of outwardly saying what I think (I’m a GC feminist and in a relationship with a woman). The flags don’t represent me, but Dave and Viv do. I echo what Viv said - I want trans people to be treated with respect and to have a place they can gather, feel themselves, organise - but not to the detriment of treating women with respect and taking their places.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 25/04/2023 09:01

CuriousMoo · 24/04/2023 23:50

If you ever visit you'll be sad to see all the lovely pro-trans posters and flags up. The internet is not real life thank god.

Things done out of fear of reprisals is not real either. How many flags and posters are being flown because people are too scared to not show support. How many of those anon women commenting fly flags because they fear reprisals if they don't.

CampervanKween · 25/04/2023 08:57

Wow that was eye opening. Thanks for posting OP. Solidarity with Dave and Cathy.

Villagetoraiseachild · 25/04/2023 08:41

Thanks littleripper.
That was a sobering read.
This ideology is harming lives.
Not voting Labour for the forseeable.

WarriorN · 25/04/2023 08:16

Glad the comments are up - such a range of intelligent and concerned (and concerning) responses.

That any woman has to write this: PLEASE keep my response anonymous for the very real fear of threat of reprisal, risk of libel, loss of employment, police visits etc etc. in this day and age, for fear of reprisal from and for men, is beyond belief.

WarriorN · 25/04/2023 08:11

IcakethereforeIam · 24/04/2023 22:10

I hadn't realised Hebden Bridge was in Calder Valley. That explains why it was so 'terfy' in the petition maps.

Ahhhhhhh! Now I get it too!

Redbird87 · 25/04/2023 05:18

PotteringPondering · 24/04/2023 23:02

I read the archived letter from Dave Boardman with sadness. It's such a powerful and moving letter.

Good to see so many local people from Hebden writing in support.

What Dave flags up is a horrible, misogynistic agenda, and the willingness of the local Labour Party to go along with it in such a 'cancel, cancel, cancel' way is grim.

It's two different kinds of sad, when a parent watches their daughter experience misogyny in a serious way for the first time. A mother's is early because she knows what to expect, but when a dad sees his little girl get treated in a way that's unfathomable to him, it's like he gets it on a visceral level for the first time, and there's a level of bewilderment that's very sad to me. She's a grown adult but he still do the "dad things" we'd hope good fathers do- he wrote letters, he talked to people he thought he knew on the inside, he tried pulling favors, and I'm sure he's had to talk himself out of going to that office himself and kicking somebody's ass.

CuriousMoo · 24/04/2023 23:50

If you ever visit you'll be sad to see all the lovely pro-trans posters and flags up. The internet is not real life thank god.

PotteringPondering · 24/04/2023 23:02

I read the archived letter from Dave Boardman with sadness. It's such a powerful and moving letter.

Good to see so many local people from Hebden writing in support.

What Dave flags up is a horrible, misogynistic agenda, and the willingness of the local Labour Party to go along with it in such a 'cancel, cancel, cancel' way is grim.

TheBiologyStupid · 24/04/2023 22:26

Looks familiar ;o)

littleripper · 24/04/2023 22:22

https://archive.ph/JNiRg

Does this work 👆

Welcome to nginx

https://archive.ph/JNiRg

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TheBiologyStupid · 24/04/2023 22:19

It's on archive.ph

BettyFilous · 24/04/2023 22:17

I’ve tried the Wayback machine, the Icelandic and Phillipines archive domains. No joy. 😕

IcakethereforeIam · 24/04/2023 22:10

I hadn't realised Hebden Bridge was in Calder Valley. That explains why it was so 'terfy' in the petition maps.

littleripper · 24/04/2023 22:03

can you post a link @TheBiologyStupid? I can't find it :)

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TheBiologyStupid · 24/04/2023 21:48

The unredacted version of Dave Boardman's HebWeb article was archived :o)

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