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Has anyone else been forced to become Conservative after all of this?

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ponderingsoul · 22/04/2023 11:31

Probably the wrong wording, but I'm curious - after always considering myself fairly left wing/ liberal and generally voting Labour (or tactically Lib Dem when I was in the SW), I no longer really consider them a valid option for me because of their gender views/ inability to take a view.

Has this happened to anyone else? Never thought I'd be a Tory, but now feel like I have no choice as this issue is so important to me.

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Oldnproud · 22/04/2023 12:01

Seriously, OP, you would join or vote for the party that has been in power for the last 13 years and actually allowed this situation to develop to where it is now? I really can't find the logic in that.

Plasmodesmata · 22/04/2023 11:57

It's certainly making me rethink who I'm intending to vote for. I used to vote tactically not-Tory - which here means Lib Dem although it's such a safe Tory seat (or has been up til now) that it usually makes no difference what you do. Blue rosette on a pig sort of thing.
I still don't think I can bring myself to vote for the pig with its rosette - hoping for a not completely insane independent candidate perhaps.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 22/04/2023 11:56

Hell no!! I’m bitterly disappointed in Labour over this issue - cowards & liars! but im
not voting Tory either

TooBigForMyBoots · 22/04/2023 11:56

No. They brought this shitshow on our heads!

DemiColon · 22/04/2023 11:50

I'd make a distinction between voting for a party, even regularly, and "becoming Tory" or even becoming Labour. There are a lot of people who vote for different parties depending on the election, the issues, their local candidates, whatever.

That being said, I think quite a few in recent years found their regular voting patterns have been upended, mainly because of changes in Labour/left politics, but also because of changes on the side of the Conservatives. Gender ideology is really just one small part of a larger move to switch to an identity politics paradigm on the left generally, and also there seems to have been a move away from a fairly pragmatic political program to a weird kind of idealism/utopianism.

While at the same time Tories, and really conservatives across many countries, have actually embraced some policy directions that used to be mainly associated with the traditional left.

So it's really no wonder voters are finding their voting patterns are effected.

Lottapianos · 22/04/2023 11:47

God no. I'm bitterly disappointed in Keir Starmer and his fence-sitting but no way I'm ever voting Tory. It's grim times all round

BonfireLady · 22/04/2023 11:46

No, owing to other policies of theirs that I don't agree with.

However a) I also feel very strongly about this issue and will be spoiling my ballot paper if Labour and the Lib Dems don't demonstrate a significant shift in their thinking b) if I lived Miriam Cates' constituency I would. The work that she is doing is incredibly important and I would like her to remain in her seat to continue it.

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