R4 interview with woman raped by her father

It's on the BBC 10 O'Clock News now. Warned as distressing content.

Poor people - I hope they find some peace and healing.

Same. I get a physical and visceral reaction of hatred and sheer fury.

Same. I think it’s amazing how well we all control it. These bastards just get away with the most disturbing crimes with barely any punishment, while the victims suffer forever. How is this our justice system? What the hell can we do about it?

God, that is so awful. Just horrific. How many men think they have full ownership of the bodies of women and children? We are treated as trash and the law clearly does not care.

I saw a horrendous interview with two lovely women on tv last night whose daughters had been brutally murdered by their partners. Again, the law gave them a much reduced sentence compared with if they'd done the same thing to a stranger. It's as if if you live in the same house as a man you're implicitly consenting to be harmed by them - even if you are a child.

That sentence is so disgusting. In the US there have been cases where a rapist or his family was able to win visitation or even CUSTODY of the child resulted from the rape, one of the first things I thought of with this was whether there was even a no contact order given for the poor kid, or if she was forced to interact with this disgusting monster.

I heard it. It made me cry. She sounded so brave, but also apologetic, which made me sad.

I don't understand how the justice system can be structured so that a man can get only 3 years for this crime. It just baffles me.

It is repeated over a decade, it breaks the most fundamental moral rules of protection of your children, it has resulted in the birth of a further victim, it involved trying to cover up using his "pillar of the community" reputation. How, just how, do those multiple factors added to the fact that it was rape not result in a minimum sentence of decades?

Same. I get a physical and visceral reaction of hatred and sheer fury.

HOW ARE WOMEN AND GIRLS STILL TREATED THIS WAY BY MEN??????

Completely agree with this.

That poor woman, how awful. I hope she has access to counselling and support to live her life to the fullest.

How could he only get 3 years.

I heard it. It was so sad and so horrific. And 3 years what a negligible sentence for the ex-policeman to get for 10 years of rape of his own daughter. I felt so sad for the interviewee. She was so strong in prosecuting her 'dad' and had rebuilt her life and brought up her disabled DC, but what a painful life.

Not the sort of interview Evan Davis usually does. I wonder if any pennies were dropping for him about the extent of male violence against women and girls.
Although I doubt it as in the same episode they discussed Kier Starmer's strange under-popularity and Davis didn't mention the 'what is a woman' issue.

Awful. I know someone who was raped by her father. First person she ever had sex with. She didn't even know what sex was properly back then, and it was the early 70s I think, and I don't think she quite realised exactly what he was doing.

Just imagine that being part of your history forever. Just horrific. She was married several times and I believe she kept going for abusive men because of the abuse in her childhood.

Really? It is not about the abuse and exploitation of women and children by men?

The men who perpetrate these acts should be locked up for the rest of their lives. Their crimes are as evil as murder, perhaps even more so.

Women and girls are just subservient inhuman pieces of nothing to these sick bastards.

the failure of the families to protect and stand by these girls is another layer of horror
when I read this I imagined it might have been about the West children, but obviously not- I often wonder what happened to them- obviously they were given new identities but how on earth did they ever recover

So many terrible stories shared here, truly disturbing and sad stories. It’s just happening far far too often.

I have worked with a woman with learning disabilities who was raped by her father and gave birth to, and raised, his disabled child. I don't know what, if anything, happened to the perpetrator.

I went fo school in the 70s with a boy who’s father was his grandfather 😢😢. He had no SEN unlike the boy in the OP’s story who has been left disabled by the genetic issues.

My mum remembers this horror being playground gossip so presumably he knew or would have known at some point. I don’t know how you process that 😢.

I heard the interviews on PM and Women's Hour too. They were different women and both accounts were horrific.

The women were interviewed for a documentary Out of the Shadows which is on the iplayer (link at end of news item below).

Apparently the Victims Bill will allow children in this position to be treated as victims of crime, whichill give them rights to access services such as counselling.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65274470

@Clementineorsatsuma Not what this thread is about.

Rude

If you can't see any connection between a woman forced to have sex by her father and unable to refuse him, and the ongoing situation of women being forced to centre men's wishes by acceding to male-bodied people in their private spaces, I suggest that perhaps you are not thinking about it hard enough. I've had enough of 'be kind'. Let's try men, including those men with a mystical inner sense of femininity while retaining their male physical attributes, being kind to us women.

That is shocking and so disturbing and what that young girl must have gone through mentally and physically and for nobody to believe her at all and then to have gotten pregnant is just awful for her. That all happened here in Ireland also and the babies would have been taken from the young mums in mother and baby laundries where the mum had to work so hard and some never even got out of those awful places and the man went on with his life as if nothing happened. Hope that woman has some peace now and is able to get on somewhat with her life, but how could you ever get over something like that. My heart goes out to her and other girls/women who are going through or have been through this.

Back in the eighties I worked with a woman whose grandfather was also her father.She was a lot older than me and one of the sweetest people I've ever met but her mother absolutely hated her.

I seem to remember this case?

I met a girl in London in 1979 when I was working in hotels
She had been pimped out by her father to be raped by his friends as well as raped regularly by him. No one helped or questioned anything. She ran away as soon as she got her Nat Ins number do she could get work.

Just horrific.

Also a former SW. More adults with LDs than anyone wants to admit are the result of incest. Lots of generic issues. Families with incest in various 'relationships'.

I worked with a young woman fairly recently whose child may have been the result of her father's abuse. Everyone knew but because she had been encouraged to lie and 'drop it' by other family members, nothing would happen to him. The baby, unsurprisingly, was neglected.

Not what this thread is about.

Rude

I cannot put into words the rage I feel at these examples of male behaviour