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Selective use of statistics in the Guardian

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DipsyLaLaPo · 19/04/2023 10:25

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/19/half-of-lgbt-young-adults-in-uk-are-estranged-from-a-relative-survey-finds

It is just glaringly obvious clickbait (I hesitate to assume a more deep rooted political agenda as lots of these things are usually down to lazy stupidity) when transgender elements of a statistic are highlighted, but they aren't even the most impacted on the graph immediately above?

Almost one-fifth (19%) of transgender people and 23% of non-binary people in the survey said they were not close to immediate family members.

lookat the graph and you'll see three categories with even higher numbers than this. Gay, lesbian and bi.

In fact, nearly 10% of gay men are estranged from their entire family. Trans and non binary are the least affected by total estrangement, according to this graph.

And yet lesbian and gay are the most confident about coming out.

There's a story for you. Sick of seeing stats misrepresented in major national news outlets.

Half of LGBT+ young adults in UK are estranged from a relative, survey finds

Charity says many people are fearful they will not be accepted because of their sexuality or gender identity

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/19/half-of-lgbt-young-adults-in-uk-are-estranged-from-a-relative-survey-finds

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ArabeIIaScott · 19/04/2023 11:07

'About 262,000 people (0.5% of the total) said their gender identity was different from their sex registered at birth. Another 3.6 million people (7.5%) did not answer the question.'

How is that useful data? We know that one of the correlations was that in areas where english is a second language more people 'said their gender identity was different from their sex'.

Really, they've managed to obscure rather than clarify any of the issues.

ArabeIIaScott · 19/04/2023 11:04

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 19/04/2023 10:31

Over 30% of the population regardless of sexuality or gender identity are estranged from at least one member of their family? Holy crap

How are they defining 'estranged' and where are the boundaries of who is included in 'family'?

Rightsraptor · 19/04/2023 10:42

Take a look at AIBU or the relationship board here and you'll see loads of people 'gone/going NC' with a family member - often their mother from my superficial reading. I believe NC = no contact, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Families can be poisonous, we all know that, even if our own isn't.

I haven't read the article, but it'd be interesting know the 'NC' stats for trans vs non-trans (sorry) people who have no contact with family. Maybe the article tells us but I'm afraid I don't want to read it.

ControversialOpening · 19/04/2023 10:36

Your headline should be "selective use of truth in the guardian".

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 19/04/2023 10:31

Over 30% of the population regardless of sexuality or gender identity are estranged from at least one member of their family? Holy crap