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The Joan of Arc theatre group are at it again

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Definitelyrandom · 18/04/2023 13:56

This time with a play about Elizabeth Southerden Thompson who painted military subjects in the 19th century, was a Catholic convert, married a British officer, went with him round the British Empire, raised 6 children and retired to a castle in Ireland. While she was a keen amateur military historian, there is more than a suggestion that she started painting military scenes as a wheeze to distinguish herself from other women artists.

But......

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2023/apr/18/victorian-war-artist-elizabeth-southerden-thompson

"“She was transgressing gender and the expectations of women at the time,” says Milk Presents’ Luke Skilbeck who will co-direct the production with Smith. “That’s a queer act.”"

If that statement isn't putting women into a stereotypical box, I'm not sure what is.

The "cast is made up of drag performers including Death Drop’s LJ Parkinson and Emer Dineen who plays Elizabeth. Drag kings will depict the academicians, those men intent on keeping Thompson from having a seat at the table. “If we had men saying the things that they said it would be gross. We’re sending it up a little bit,” says Brammar.......

The show will also be informed by the spirit of music hall, Smith explains, because it was a popular form of entertainment at the time and it accommodated different forms of gender expression. While the language of the period may have been different, says Skilbeck, “If I was transgender at the time and wanted to find other trans people, I’d probably find them in the music hall.”

“I want people to have the sense that they are in a queer space,” he continues. “So, we cast people who really know how to work the crowd.”"

This is all far more tangential - indeed irrelevant - to the subject than even the Joan of Arc one was. Poor woman will be turning in her grave.....

‘She was transgressing expectations’: the Victorian war artist who inspired a drag show

Her military painting was such a sensation that it was bought by Queen Victoria. A new play explores Elizabeth Southerden Thompson’s trailblazing art, her privilege – and the prejudice she faced

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2023/apr/18/victorian-war-artist-elizabeth-southerden-thompson

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Musomama1 · 18/04/2023 14:40

FFS, are they trolling women at this point? Any historical woman doing anything beyond child rearing and house keeping is 'queer' now. Whatever that means?

Looking forward to Marie Curie: Transgressive Scientist where a succession of drag kings educate the audience on how she queered science

IWilloBeACervix · 18/04/2023 14:38

Oh FFS. My response to non-binary is that I’ve never met a binary person in my life, now it turns out that most people I know are all queer now too. Maybe because I’m an engineer, not an artist, I won’t get outed and have to join the lgbtqia+ network at work.

LetMeGoogleThat · 18/04/2023 14:32

Ffs 🤷‍♀️

WarriorN · 18/04/2023 14:24

Oh for godssake.

Tinysoxx · 18/04/2023 14:02

I had a laugh at that article. From it, I deduced I must be queer and infuriating, just like her.
Somebody does need to do a comedy about all of this stuff. When you step back and observe it from a biological and historical ‘lens’ it’s ridiculous.

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