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Mr Bragg making an utter arse of himself again

55 replies

JeanRondeausMadHair · 18/04/2023 13:15

https://twitter.com/billybragg/status/1647690008139014145

Replies are both hilarious and heartening.

https://twitter.com/billybragg/status/1647690008139014145

OP posts:
Malvarrosa · 18/04/2023 15:44

So, I hear you're a neoliberal now, Billy.

GIF by Descomplica
TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 18/04/2023 15:41

It took me a while to work out what he was getting at because I couldn’t bring myself to believe he is so ignorant as to not know the difference between queer theory and gay rights.

JoodyBlue · 18/04/2023 15:26

She does everyone a service. He is influential unfortunately, and so to draw him out and hold up a mirror like that is great work!

RaininginDarling · 18/04/2023 15:24

JoodyBlue · 18/04/2023 15:19

I think a nod of appreciation to Birdy is in order. He has been hideously patronising to her and she drew him out so cleverly. Birdy Flowers

Yes, she's been great! I wouldn't have the patience myself.

JoodyBlue · 18/04/2023 15:19

I think a nod of appreciation to Birdy is in order. He has been hideously patronising to her and she drew him out so cleverly. Birdy Flowers

EdithStourton · 18/04/2023 14:59

I used to love Billy Bragg.
'Used' being the operative word.

AwaAnRaffleYersel · 18/04/2023 14:42

I too have Between the Wars on vinyl.

I suggest the change of one letter for the follow up and shall look forward to hearing beautiful silence on it.

Between the Ears.

AutumnCrow · 18/04/2023 14:39

I actually feel some sort of vicarious shame for him. I mean, how can he bear the embarrassment?

I've got the original vinyl single of Between The Wars. Bloody loved that record.

All I see now in his legacy is man, man, man, man, man.

Mummyoflittledragon · 18/04/2023 14:38

O-H
D-E-A-R
B-I-L-L-Y

Does anyone think he stuck around long enough to see the links on queer theory?

AwaAnRaffleYersel · 18/04/2023 14:18

T
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O-F
T-H-E
H-I-G-H-E-S-T
O-R-D-E-R

CheeseLouisePlease · 18/04/2023 14:17

There’s no critical thinking with Billy I’m afraid.

RoyalCorgi · 18/04/2023 14:14

The list of things Billy Bragg doesn't understand - yet feels free to pontificate about - grows bigger every day. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

Beowulfa · 18/04/2023 14:09

In the olden days the Village Idiot just used to wander round muttering to himself and you could walk briskly past. Now Twitter has given them a megaphone.

IWilloBeACervix · 18/04/2023 13:57

That was so good, I am now planning to buy another birdy-rose t shirt on pay day, just as a way to say thank you.

dropthevipers · 18/04/2023 13:50

WuTangGran · 18/04/2023 13:38

I read these threads and get confused. Does Mumsnet hate or like trans people?

The cats protection league are not anti dog. Hope that helps.

katmarie · 18/04/2023 13:48

Is Billy Bragg just trolling us all at this point?

lifeissweet · 18/04/2023 13:47

I honestly think he just read that as 'if trans ideology falls, then gay rights falls and anti-racism falls'

His ignorance is staggering. Truly.

What's that lyric he wrote once:

Good bye and good luck to all the promises you've broken

Good bye and good luck to all the rubbish that you've spoken,

Your life has lost it's dignity, it's beauty and it's passion

You're an accident waiting to happen...

Irony?

JulieHoney · 18/04/2023 13:44

WuTangGran · 18/04/2023 13:38

I read these threads and get confused. Does Mumsnet hate or like trans people?

  1. Mumsnet isn’t a hive mind

  2. I haven’t encountered anyone who hates trans people but on FWR I see plenty who do not believe humans can change sex. That isn’t hate, that’s embracing material reality.

  1. This is a thread about Billy Bragg being a numpty and not understanding queer theory.
ZeldaFighter · 18/04/2023 13:44

WuTangGran · 18/04/2023 13:38

I read these threads and get confused. Does Mumsnet hate or like trans people?

Can I get this one?

People on Mumsnet don't hate trans people. They probably love some trans people on an individual level.

What they care about is preserving women's rights to single-sex provisions and services, especially in areas like prisons or healthcare where they may be vulnerable or traumatised. Hope that helps

lechiffre55 · 18/04/2023 13:43

Thanks for the laughs :)

lifeissweet · 18/04/2023 13:41

I don't like Queer Theory either.

PronounssheRa · 18/04/2023 13:41

WuTangGran · 18/04/2023 13:38

I read these threads and get confused. Does Mumsnet hate or like trans people?

I don't like Billy Bragg

HTH

lifeissweet · 18/04/2023 13:40

WuTangGran · 18/04/2023 13:38

I read these threads and get confused. Does Mumsnet hate or like trans people?

I don't think anyone hates anyone.
You can't also 'like' a whole group in society. That would be a bit silly, wouldn't it? They are individuals. Some nice, some awful, just like any other group.

Many of us here just think that women should have their own spaces, sports, prisons, counselling services...

That's all.

PronounssheRa · 18/04/2023 13:39

Oh god, he is such a fool

He has no clue about what he is supporting

MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/04/2023 13:38

Love the way he repeatedly showcases his ignorance and (sadly) inbuilt misogyny - every. single. time.