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Brecon Beacons renamed - after a rapist

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Meadowfly · 17/04/2023 13:59

I’m hoping I’m in a muddle here! I googled (because I’m a bit of a history nerd and I don’t know anything about ancient welsh history) Brychan Brycheiniog who the Brecon Beacons is being renamed after and he appears to have been a rapist! ://www.earlybritishkingdoms.com/bios/brychbbg.html multiple sources say the same thing. Seems to have disappeared from Wikipedia though (I’m pretty sure it was included earlier today 🤔) and is not mentioned in the various newspaper columns about ‘ who was brychan brycheiniog?’ although these same columns have clearly referenced the same web pages, such as the link above, that come up on google .

I can’t quite get my head around the fact that the idea of beacons, an ancient communication and warning system is thought to be ‘not a good look’ (quote from national park representative) because of current carbon emissions, but changing the name to that of a rapist is somehow better!

EBK: King Brychan Brycheiniog of Brycheiniog

http://www.earlybritishkingdoms.com/bios/brychbbg.html

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JulieHoney · 17/04/2023 14:13

If your looking at ancient folktales to be socially acceptable, you’ll be looking for a long while.

WateryDoom · 17/04/2023 14:12

If you are a history nerd then you'll know that the majority of 5th century history has little provenance behind it, and much story and myth. In addition you can't apply 21st century morality to prior centuries.

I wouldn't get agitated about 'rapists' of the time.

Chersfrozenface · 17/04/2023 14:10

According to Celtic sources - Welsh, Cornish and Breton and also Irish, since he was supposed to be the son of an Irish prince and a Welsh princess, also his name is most likely Irish - he was just the king of Brycheiniog through his wife's inheritance of the territory and considered a patriarch, though not a saint.

There is one story that his daughter Gwladys was abducted by a neighbouring king, making him an outraged father, not a rapist.

He was supposed to have had a number of children by various wives, including several saints.