Barbie Kardashian to be moved from Woman's prison

I hope that Barbie doesn't get a whiff of the upcoming transfer. BK's threats are against women. If BK realises there's a chance of transfer to a male prison, there's a high likelihood of BK taking any opportunity to attack any woman within reach ie the female guards who already don't feel safe. Given the horrendous injuries inflicted quickly on the social worker, I hope the prison has taken this into consideration.

I'm also wondering if the Irish prison service will take the route of the Scottish prison service and decide BK is too dangerous to remain in prison, so release BK.

Not sure what pronouns we're allowed to use in BKs case so I'm trying to avoid a deletion.

Questions need to be asked now of organisations like Amnesty International, who a year ago were campaigning for Barbie to be allowed to mix with the female prisoners and to not be subjected to male prison guards supervising all interactions he had with female guards.

I've always had trouble the claim that being abused makes you more likely to be an abuser because it applies only to men. If it applied to both sexes, there would be an explosion of sex crimes committed by women, too.

And calling a person who wants to rape 'she' is ridiculous. Can we just get back to biology? A person born with a penis can never become a woman. Think of some other term but not anything that means the female of the species.

Perhaps that person listens to the Heteradorx podcast. Corina calls herself a trannie on that and the co host also uses that term.

Very well said. UK please look at the mess Ireland is in now having passed the Gender Recognition Act, don't let it happen on your watch for your daughter's sakes. Barbie Kardashian is only the start of it here in Ireland...

Nice red herring, making this about toilets. How about communal showers, communal changing rooms, or hospital wards? Basically any setting involving full or occasional nudity? Your take is truly demeaning to women's day to day dignity.

Single sex spaces needing to remain single sex for the dignity, privacy and protection of females.

Also, calling anyone “trannies” is offensive and quite demeaning. Trans people have the right to respect and appropriate terminology as any other group.

No, they absolutely should not.

Until recently, male-bodied people didn’t tend to enter women’s single-sex spaces. And if they did, women were well within the rights to ask them to leave. The law (and basic decency) was on their side.

That is no longer the case.

You do realise what the unintended consequence of self-ID is, don’t you?

Anyone can claim to be female to get access to women’s single-sex spaces, and to vulnerable women and girls (note: all girls and women become vulnerable when in the presence of someone who intends to harm them).

This isn’t even about trans people per se (although trans-identified males should not be in women’s single-sex spaces). This is about the removal of safeguards for women and girls that then allow anyone who simply says they’re a women to gain access to spaces they should not be entitled to be in.

You may be OK with that, but I absolutely am not. And I don’t see why women’s safety, privacy and dignity can just be thrown out because women like you are fine with it.

Regular day to day, non-crimimal trans-people should be free to use whatever loo they like.

No they should not. They should use the bathroom that is assigned to their biological sex. It needs to be the safety of women that's thought about, not the feelings of a trans individual.
Good news re Barbie Kardashian, he is a real danger.

There’s no death penalty in Ireland so there’s no point really talking about it. It’s a red herring.

What’s important is what happens to Kardashian next, and what processes are used to determine that, and whether those processes are fair for women, the staff, and the public.

At least now the joke of the ‘robust risk assessment’ can be discussed publicly. I don’t think people on the whole had a clue how shit it was.

Yes, it doesn't sound like he will ever be rehabilitated, but the death sentence has not been applied to non-murderers since the early 19th century.

As far as I'm aware, incarceration in prison is supposed to serve three purposes: punishment, a deterrent, and rehabilitation.

Kardashian's whole back story is (to me) relevant not as an excuse but as a starting point for believing that it is possible that he cannot be rehabilitated. In that regard, it's beginning to sound from reports into his behavior like he will never be safe to be released and will always require the intense supervision of multiple male staff, whom I do not envy one bit.

Of course he should be in a male prison (and never released), but I don’t believe he should be executed, even if Ireland still had capital punishment. What happened to him as a child was appalling. If anyone deserves capital punishment, it is his father.

@Thelnebriati So much for the robust risk assessment.

Worryingly, the risk assessment is carried out for the benefit and safety of the prisoner and not for the other inmates / staff in the prison. It's totally mad!!

How can the Irish state guarantee public protection when he's released.
It's truely horrifying for women. The gender recognition act has been passed in Ireland so Barbie can freely enter women's toilets & changing rooms. The law is on his side. It is terrifying to think that this will happen upon his release unless the GRA is reversed.

Statistically it makes you much more likely to offend.

And? What's that got to do with the price of fish?

@MissLucyEyelesbarrow he has had a harrowing childhood. It's very sad. However the state has a duty to it's citizens, this man should never have been put in a women's institution last year.

He is himself a victim of horrific male violence as a child. I’m not trying to excuse an iota of what he has done, but he is profoundly damaged by his own father.

@StepAwayFromTheBiscuitJar Ireland's posterboy. He's chilling looking.

He looks utterly terrifying doesn't he. I don't believe in the death sentence generally, but cases like this question my beliefs tbh. He'll never be a person we can trust in society and will always be an expensive burden.

It's chilling reading just how dangerous this man is. And how lacking the authorities have been in dealing with him and the dangers he presents to women prisoners, female staff, and the public.

https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/irish-crime/barbie-kardashian-to-be-moved-from-limerick-prison-over-fears-of-attack-on-staff/a659395218.html

It's a start for sure & the tide is turning. The legislation needs to be changed pronto so this does not happen again. Biological males in male spaces. No exceptions.