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The Uncancelling of JK Rowling

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NutellaEllaElla · 16/04/2023 12:22

Gosh it is heartening to see even more evidence that the tide has turned. She's stuck to her guns and been too reasonable to be cancelled by the misogynists.

Times article here

The uncancelling of JK Rowling

Tide appears to be turning for the Harry Potter author ostracised for her trans views

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/04/15/jk-rowling-transgender-views-uncancelled/

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loislovesstewie · 17/04/2023 15:38

And as others have said @TaylorMia you don't get to allow distress to others who want to continue single sex spaces by trying to be right on or kind or whatever. It's not being kind to the majority.

NotHavingIt · 17/04/2023 15:21

hotdiggetydog · 17/04/2023 12:26

People can and do. It's a fact.

It is not a fact. You cannot change your sex. Your sex is recorded in every cell of your body.

What you are talking about is gender presentation. Gender identity or gender presentation and sex are not the same thing at all. It is disturbing to think that young people are actualy being led to believe they can change their sex.

NotHavingIt · 17/04/2023 15:15

AdamRyan · 17/04/2023 09:17

No I agree, was just pointing out that JKR and KJK have quite different views

I'm sure they do on all manner of subjects, but on one thing they agree - and that is that sex is real and it matters - especially to women and girls in certain situations; and for that reason women and girls must maintain the right to single sex spaces, services and sporting categories.

They also agree to reject the sex denial that is at the heart of gender identity theory - which in the end game totally erases women as a distinct category of human being.

NotHavingIt · 17/04/2023 15:10

TaylorMia · 17/04/2023 08:29

Many women have gone into the men's room to skip long queues at the women's room, and gay men and trans women have been invited int the women's room by female friends. The restroom thing is a farce.

We call them toilets or loos in Britain; and no, it is not a farce. We have single sex spaces in public areas for good reason. They act as a safeguard for the privacy and dignity of one's sex - especially for the female sex.

We all have toilets at home too - but we don't open our front door and let in the general public in to use them at will. We maintain our right to control access to them. For good reason.

Righthandcider · 17/04/2023 15:08

(Or she, or they.)

Righthandcider · 17/04/2023 15:07

turbonerd · 17/04/2023 14:21

But will you be Walking a hotdiggitydog?

«Sex change operations.»

Oh dear. I’m going to have a lie down after this.

Of course, but not if he accuses me of bringing a whistle.

NotHavingIt · 17/04/2023 15:06

TaylorMia · 17/04/2023 08:27

She's triggered by calling a trans woman a she/trans man a he etc. If you think the concept of being trans is a bad thing, then there's no point in insisting you don't have a problem with it.

That's far too simplistic.

Nobody objects to people identying however they wish; what is objected to is the imposition of that 'identity' onto everyone else. You cannot compel people to accept someone else's private belief system.

NotHavingIt · 17/04/2023 15:03

TaylorMia · 17/04/2023 08:12

Posie Parker is openly against the whole concept of being trans.

She rejects the primacy of the concept of gender identity theory over the reality of sex.

NotHavingIt · 17/04/2023 15:01

Lennybenny · 16/04/2023 12:34

Probably because of all the publicity over Dylan Mulvaney and everyone realising JK rowling wasn't actually wrong. Natural Women are being eradicated.

The end goal of gender ideology and the eradification of sex inevitably leads not to the eradication of men, but to that of women.

JeanRondeausMadHair · 17/04/2023 14:57

hotdiggetydog · 17/04/2023 09:23

Bashes trans people but pretends to be a bloke when writing some of her books.

Oh not this absolute fucking nonsense again.

literallyarabbit · 17/04/2023 14:45

literalviolence · 17/04/2023 14:36

I don't think we should engage in conversation with someone who is pretending to be a hot dog.

I know, I know, but it's just getting so tedious now.

Really though, they're making a mockery of themselves and the point they're failing to make, after all, if they're a hotdog or even just a plain old dog of the canine variety, they wouldn't be able to type or even engage in the first instance

literalviolence · 17/04/2023 14:36

literallyarabbit · 17/04/2023 14:35

OMG, you're still persisting with this rubbish.

Just. Stop. It. You're embarrassing yourself much like you did in the other thread where you did exactly the same things.

I don't think we should engage in conversation with someone who is pretending to be a hot dog.

literallyarabbit · 17/04/2023 14:35

hotdiggetydog · 17/04/2023 09:23

Bashes trans people but pretends to be a bloke when writing some of her books.

OMG, you're still persisting with this rubbish.

Just. Stop. It. You're embarrassing yourself much like you did in the other thread where you did exactly the same things.

Grammarnut · 17/04/2023 14:31

That's fine if they are selling make-up to men - who have historically worn lots - but really pointless if women are the market.

turbonerd · 17/04/2023 14:21

Righthandcider · 17/04/2023 13:19

In fact I'm going out right now to walk the dog and I'll be telling everyone I meet.

But will you be Walking a hotdiggitydog?

«Sex change operations.»

Oh dear. I’m going to have a lie down after this.

StoneColdAlibi · 17/04/2023 14:20

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WickedSerious · 17/04/2023 14:12

hotdiggetydog · 17/04/2023 09:23

Bashes trans people but pretends to be a bloke when writing some of her books.

Right,because no one's mentioned this shit before.

Righthandcider · 17/04/2023 13:27

Justnot · 17/04/2023 13:22

I think hotdiggetydog has run away with their tail between their legs - nice open goal though

Why do they bother?!

Justnot · 17/04/2023 13:22

I think hotdiggetydog has run away with their tail between their legs - nice open goal though

Righthandcider · 17/04/2023 13:19

In fact I'm going out right now to walk the dog and I'll be telling everyone I meet.

Righthandcider · 17/04/2023 13:18

Well I for one am completely convinced by Hotdog's arguments. I am so grateful for having my muddled little brain enlightened and shall now go forth armed with the new and wondrous knowledge that humans can change sex - FACT - and that JKR is both a transphobe AND trans!

turbonerd · 17/04/2023 13:14

hotdiggetydog · 17/04/2023 12:26

People can and do. It's a fact.

No.
People cannot change their sex. It’s a fact.

And JKR says this and points out that it is a most important fact go Get to grips with, and I do agree with her on this.
I am very happy media is starting to state this fact clearly

Emeraldsrock · 17/04/2023 13:12

Grumpy panda lack of potty parity is why I stopped going the races. I remember spending the majority of my time queuing for the disgusting loos and when a few women broke off to go in the men’s the bouncers cam charging in to chuck them out. I remember telling them you wouldn’t treat animals like this. Never again!

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 17/04/2023 13:02

hotdiggetydog · 17/04/2023 12:37

Sex change operation. Loads of people have them.

Dearie, dearie me

at this point I actually hope you’re trolling

otherwise someone has seriously done a number on you

TheKeatingFive · 17/04/2023 12:59

Sex change operation. Loads of people have them.

These don't exist