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The Uncancelling of JK Rowling

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NutellaEllaElla · 16/04/2023 12:22

Gosh it is heartening to see even more evidence that the tide has turned. She's stuck to her guns and been too reasonable to be cancelled by the misogynists.

Times article here

The uncancelling of JK Rowling

Tide appears to be turning for the Harry Potter author ostracised for her trans views

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/04/15/jk-rowling-transgender-views-uncancelled/

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hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 13:44

Plenty of "biological" women don't have wombs or can't give birth to children.

Are they banned from the ladies loos as well as trans women?

No.

Then why the bigotry?

turbonerd · 02/05/2023 13:41

Oh dawg.
no trans identifying man can give birth. No trans women can give birth. No non-binary men can give birth.
why is that, do you think?

PSNonsense · 02/05/2023 13:40

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 13:38

Oh bless

Exactly what I think reading your posts @hotdiggetydog!

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 13:38

Oh bless

AdamRyan · 02/05/2023 13:34

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 12:37

There's more than one way to mother a child. Like adoption or fostering for examples.

Mothering= an act of parenting done by a woman. Personally I think this can include transwomen as it can be socially defined and like you said, adoption, fostering etc are ways to become a mother.

Having babies- growing a foetus in a womb then giving birth to it. Only female humans can do this, regardless of how they identify.

If people could "change sex" then trans women could have babies. Not one ever has.

Datun · 02/05/2023 13:16

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 13:04

So adopted parents aren't real parents? That's an awful take and disrespectful to many people.

You're moving the goal posts so fast, you're going to get whiplash.

Human beings can't change sex. If you believe that, you need to start unpicking what you have been told.

Brisland · 02/05/2023 13:15

@hotdiggetydog - it is definitely an awful take and disrespectful, so I would encourage you to not state such utter shit again - after all, I didn’t say anything of the sort, it was entirely your call.

I would appreciate it very much if you could, whilst refraining from employing such utter shit as diversionary tactics, provide the evidence for your claim - evidence of transwomen giving birth.

PSNonsense · 02/05/2023 13:06

So adopted parents aren't real parents? That's an awful take and disrespectful to many people.

They are well aware they didn't give birth to their children, hence the 'adopted' part.

Now, again, how do transwomen give birth?

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 13:04

Brisland · 02/05/2023 12:49

@hotdiggetydog , but I didn’t ask about how or who can “mother” a child.

You stated people can CHANGE SEX. If this is true, then there will be transwomen giving birth/having babies. Please provide evidence of this occurring.

So adopted parents aren't real parents? That's an awful take and disrespectful to many people.

Sparagmos · 02/05/2023 12:51

The original bizarre and extraordinary response to her tweets was what set me on the path of GC. I greatly appreciate her❤️

Brisland · 02/05/2023 12:49

@hotdiggetydog , but I didn’t ask about how or who can “mother” a child.

You stated people can CHANGE SEX. If this is true, then there will be transwomen giving birth/having babies. Please provide evidence of this occurring.

AutumnCrow · 02/05/2023 12:48

Oh god, it'll be hysterectomies next

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 12:37

Brisland · 02/05/2023 12:20

@hotdiggetydog - if males can become females via a “sex change operation”, there must be lots of transwomen having babies. Can you please provide evidence of this, after all you said they CHANGE SEX. Thanks in advance.

There's more than one way to mother a child. Like adoption or fostering for examples.

potniatheron · 02/05/2023 12:37

Are you assuming trans women are likely sex offenders?

No need to assume anything

KalimbaMoon · 02/05/2023 12:25

Transwomen are women so can use the ladies loos.

No, they aren’t and no they shouldn’t. Third spaces are the answer, to ensure everyone’s safety, dignity and privacy.

Hot dog, hot dog, the problem’s solved
Hot dog, hot dog, hot diggety dog.

Thank you for putting that fine Mickey Mouse Clubhouse tune in my head, if nothing else!

Brisland · 02/05/2023 12:20

@hotdiggetydog - if males can become females via a “sex change operation”, there must be lots of transwomen having babies. Can you please provide evidence of this, after all you said they CHANGE SEX. Thanks in advance.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 02/05/2023 12:17

No one can change their sex. Absolutely not. Positively not.
No.

People can and do. It's a fact.

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Jesus Christ Confused

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 02/05/2023 12:14

Tidyspy · 17/04/2023 08:58

@AdamRyan not everyone has to agree on everything, women are allowed to be difficult. PP has been great for the GC movement and that’s enough - it’s impossible for everyone to share the same views all the time, that’s what “no debate” demanded and it shouldn’t be a requirement ever.

👏

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 02/05/2023 12:13

TaylorMia · 17/04/2023 08:29

Many women have gone into the men's room to skip long queues at the women's room, and gay men and trans women have been invited int the women's room by female friends. The restroom thing is a farce.

Not if there is a chance a person with a penis could assault you it's not.

I love how some women don't give a shit about throwing other women under the bus Confused

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 02/05/2023 12:11

TheKeatingFive · 17/04/2023 08:20

Posie Parker is openly against the whole concept of being trans.

what does that actually mean though?

Anti trans identifying people in women's spaces? I agree with her

Anti minors undergoing experimental medical procedures? I'm with her there too

Anti gender non-confirming people expressing themselves as they like? I don't think she is against that? Is she?

I categorically do not believe anyone is born in the wrong body so I guess by definition that makes me anti trans.

Which is sad really as if a person decides they are in the wrong body and expresses themselves accordingly without any infringement on the rights, safety and boundaries of others I will be completely respectful of them. I won't agree with how they see themselves but that's not "denying their existence ".

Unfortunately there is no middle ground or compromise or discussion at all permitted with this movement.

Datun · 02/05/2023 12:04

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 10:58

Transwomen are women so can use the ladies loos.

Ah, you do get it. I thought so.

When in doubt, move those goalposts. 😁

literalviolence · 02/05/2023 11:58

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 10:58

Transwomen are women so can use the ladies loos.

So most women aren't women? There's no common characteristic between me and a TW. Does excluding women from the definition of women not bother you at all?

loislovesstewie · 02/05/2023 11:24

When did the word 'woman' meaning adult human female, come to mean men? Why do some feel they have the absolute right to extend the biological term for an adult human female to the male of the species? Imagine if you were a farmer wanting to buy ewes( female sheep) and ended up with a load of rams, because the term meant whatever anyone wanted? That is ludicrous and so is saying TWAW.

yourhairiswinterfire · 02/05/2023 11:19

Transwomen are women so can use the ladies loos.

Make your mind up, you called them men on the previous page.
'Yep, but she's got issues with men doing the reverse'.

Are you assuming trans women are likely sex offenders?

It's interesting that your mind jumped to sex offenders.

As it happens, according to stats on the prison population, men who identify as women are 5x more likely than other men to commit sexual offences.

We know that not every male is a sex offender, but because we can't tell the ones who are from the ones who aren't, we exclude them from female spaces where women need privacy or are vulnerable, like women-only hospital wards, changing rooms, prisons, refuges. The same should apply to men who claim they are women.

Decent men accept this. Decent men don't take women having boundaries and needing privacy as a personal insult. They don't throw tantrums because women say 'no'. The men that do are red flags and the reason we need our own spaces in the first place.

DialSquare · 02/05/2023 11:08

These TRAs never seem to realise that they always do the job for us. Any lurkers must be thinking "WTF".