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The Uncancelling of JK Rowling

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NutellaEllaElla · 16/04/2023 12:22

Gosh it is heartening to see even more evidence that the tide has turned. She's stuck to her guns and been too reasonable to be cancelled by the misogynists.

Times article here

The uncancelling of JK Rowling

Tide appears to be turning for the Harry Potter author ostracised for her trans views

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/04/15/jk-rowling-transgender-views-uncancelled/

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literalviolence · 02/05/2023 16:28

literalviolence · 02/05/2023 11:58

So most women aren't women? There's no common characteristic between me and a TW. Does excluding women from the definition of women not bother you at all?

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I don't think you've answered this @hotdiggetydog and I'd really like you to

HereForTheFreeLunch · 02/05/2023 15:45

hotdiggetydog · Today 13:44
Plenty of "biological" women don't have wombs or can't give birth to children.
Are they banned from the ladies loos as well as trans women?

Do people really think this is some kind of gotcha???
There's no difference between a bloke and a woman with reproductive issues? Many times these blokes have actually fathered children too.

How on earth can anyone be so stupid as to think a man without a womb is the same as a woman without a womb!!

KalimbaMoon · 02/05/2023 15:45

It’s offensive to compare women who have had hysterectomies with TW, and to ask why nobody is excluding these biological women from ladies’ loos. Natal women, whether they can give birth or not, are not the same as TW, because of that annoying little thing called biology. That’s why they can use ladies’ loos.

Funny how nobody ever says trans men are the same as men who’ve had their prostate removed for health reasons. It’s always about the TW isn’t it. Could it be that TW are more important than TM? Wonder why?

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 02/05/2023 15:30

Please do point out the trans hate? Or is it pesky reality you've a problem with?

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 02/05/2023 15:28

This is becoming highly surreal Confused

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 02/05/2023 15:27

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 13:44

Plenty of "biological" women don't have wombs or can't give birth to children.

Are they banned from the ladies loos as well as trans women?

No.

Then why the bigotry?

Because they don't have male biology so are therefore highly unlikely to assault or rape while in there.

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Brokendaughter · 02/05/2023 15:21

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Reality is not hate.

Brokendaughter · 02/05/2023 15:17

hotdiggetydog · 17/04/2023 12:37

Sex change operation. Loads of people have them.

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There is no such thing as a 'sex change operation'.
There are various surgeries (none of which are about changing sex) to mimic a slightly closer appearance to the opposite sex outwardly.

There is no magic operation that gives a male working female parts or a female working male parts.

It's the surgical equivalent of gluing a clown nose onto your face & expecting people to think it's a real nose.

Brisland · 02/05/2023 14:47

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 13:38

Oh bless

Hmmmm, @hotdiggetydog , it is called cognitive dissonance, that little voice in your head that is saying “oh shit”….

Transwomen cannot give birth and do not even have the biological potential to get pregnant - because they are male.

Women, regardless of whether they can get pregnant or not, or deliver a baby or not, have the biological potential to do so as they are female.

Transwomen are male, they are a sub set of men, and should be able to safely use male facilities and spaces. If they can’t, for any reason, that is for TW and other males to determine a solution.

TW should be able to live freely however they wish to present/whatever gender identity they identify as/however they (as adults) wish to use surgery to approximate a female body. Their sex doesn’t change, though - they are TW, not women.

potniatheron · 02/05/2023 14:36

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Hyenas?

Yawn another misogynist dude

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/05/2023 14:35

Alexa - show us a poster clutching at straws 😂

ReadersD1gest · 02/05/2023 14:33

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 14:31

I've not been owned at all, it's just a difference of opinions.

Well, you could say that.
We're right, you're wrong 🤷🏻‍♀️ Btw, why are you presenting your opinions as fact?

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 14:31

I've not been owned at all, it's just a difference of opinions.

AdamRyan · 02/05/2023 14:22

Have we moved on to the been-owned--have-no-argument-stir-up-a-row-get-thread-pulled stage then?

PSNonsense · 02/05/2023 14:20

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Or people who live in the real world and understand biology maybe?

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 14:19

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AdamRyan · 02/05/2023 14:15

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 13:44

Plenty of "biological" women don't have wombs or can't give birth to children.

Are they banned from the ladies loos as well as trans women?

No.

Then why the bigotry?

OK
So there are two people who identify as women who go to the doctor because they can't get pregnant.
One is referred for tests to find out why they are finding it hard.

One is told to go away because of course they aren't going to get pregnant.

That's the basic difference between women and trans women.

It's insulting to imply women who have trouble getting pregnant are equivalent to males who identify as women.

WickedSerious · 02/05/2023 14:15

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 13:58

So why arent the ones who can't give birth banned from the ladies loos?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that it's because they're women.

PSNonsense · 02/05/2023 14:04

Whether they can give birth or not or have a womb (or not) they all have a vagina. Which trans women don't have. Because they are men.

Florissant · 02/05/2023 14:03

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 13:58

So why arent the ones who can't give birth banned from the ladies loos?

Why are your posts so stupid?

PSNonsense · 02/05/2023 14:03

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 13:58

So why arent the ones who can't give birth banned from the ladies loos?

Why would they be?

BordoisAgain · 02/05/2023 13:59

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 13:58

So why arent the ones who can't give birth banned from the ladies loos?

Why would they be banned?

You seem confused and keep conflating separate arguments into one.

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 13:58

So why arent the ones who can't give birth banned from the ladies loos?

BordoisAgain · 02/05/2023 13:57

hotdiggetydog · 02/05/2023 13:44

Plenty of "biological" women don't have wombs or can't give birth to children.

Are they banned from the ladies loos as well as trans women?

No.

Then why the bigotry?

Damn, I hope you are properly warming up before all these reaches as you are in serious danger of hurting yourself!

There are some women who can't give birth but the majority can.

100% of transwoman are unable to give birth.

turbonerd · 02/05/2023 13:52

Oh dawg.
This is really difficult for you, isn’t it?

Let’s see if we can phrase the questions a bit differently, shall we:
What do men’s bodies have that women don’t?
What do women’s bodies have that men don’t?