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Kirstie Allsopp 🤦🏻‍♀️

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Ndd135632 · 15/04/2023 05:15

Is going through her peaking journey in public late at night on Twitter. She will get there eventually but the mind twists she is having to go through are excruciating to watch.

Be kind y’all - but hmmm maybe not in women’s sports and safe spaces. Ooooook Kirstie. So we are kind sometimes but not all the time? That’s cleared that up then.

She is doing a ‘Keir Starmer’. The fence sitting is hurting her nether regions.

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MenopausalMe · 16/04/2023 18:19

Her arguments suggest she’s stupid but thinks she’s clever

Somebodiesmother · 16/04/2023 15:52

I'm pretty sure she doesn't give a single shit about anyone except herself. I don't care what she thinks about anything

Musomama1 · 16/04/2023 15:38

Kirsty and her pals are unthreatened in their womanhood by Dylan Mulvannry.

Yep Kirstie that was my position before I peaked. Why all the fuss, my womanhood is not in question? We can all live and let live.

Then I found out about women's sports, women's prisons, AGPs, erasure of women's language, lesbian dick...

Yeah it's really not about the feeling threatened thing. It's about the sex discrimination and women's rights thing.

I love Kirstie but yes, think it all through properly please.

OliveViolet · 16/04/2023 13:48

Theeyeballsinthesky · 15/04/2023 10:29

Im so bored of people wading into this without having given women at least the courtesy of doing even a tiny little bit of research to understand why it’s such an issue instead of assuming we’re too stupid or meeeaaann to have come up with a compromise position

So fucking patronising

I mean are you REALLY all that surprised that Kirsty is patronising? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Fluffymule · 15/04/2023 15:02

Ah yes, another one holding up the #BeKind finger to her mouth to admonish women.

Kirstie with her all protecting privilege, is the epitome of woman with luxury beliefs parading her self-identified moral superiority.

Funny how the scolding silencer is never used to suggest the men grotesquely performing woman-face should #BeKind by dropping the offensive stereotyping in their validity seeking theatre;

Or that trans identifying rapists are never urged to #BeKind and consider the impact their male bodies and proven violent behaviour may have on incarcerated women;

Or how mediocre male athletes are never pressured to #BeKind and leave women to compete against each other and have private changing facilities where their privacy and consent isn't obliterated.

Quite frankly #BeKind and anyone parroting it at women at this point can Kindly fuck off.

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 15/04/2023 14:12

To see dylan as just a harmless theatre kid who isnt harming anyone is ignoring or not understanding deeper issues.

Assuming Allsop is happy to indulge twaw sometimes, but not when it counts, why doesnt she see the the problem of normalising men carrying around tampaxes? Why are we teaching girls that a man in the ladies offering sanitary products to them is okay? Is it ok?

If she has done lots of research, and concluded that girls can ask men for pads if they happen to be in a public loo with them, why doesnt she explain that, rather than just asking us to be kind, and not critise?

CremeEggQueen · 15/04/2023 13:47

3WildOnes · 15/04/2023 10:43

Maybe people have done research but have just come to a different conclusion.

Exactly this
Just because people have different views, doesnt mean they haven't done any research.
That's what's patronising - assuming women who don't agree with you must just be uninformed and/or being told what to think/uneducated etc

literallyarabbit · 15/04/2023 11:29

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I used to know the first wife, (the husband and KA for that matter), and no, they have sons, no daughters.

Roadtrips · 15/04/2023 11:23

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 15/04/2023 10:10

When i read her tweets, i had the impression that she didnt believe men could be female, or to be a woman was a performance.

I read it as her wanting to indulge men. She believes that we can call men 'she' while winking, and when it matters we can exclude these men?

If that's true, what she is saying as the we should all go along with the pretence, but the other important people get to decide when and how it stops.

Trans activist lite like WPUK.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 15/04/2023 11:23

@3WildOnes but her answers showed she clearly hadn’t. It was the usual “be kind/well no not in sport/I’m sure there’s a compromise”.

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 15/04/2023 11:09

And therein lies the problem, we are in this mess because we allowed ourselves to ‘be kind’ and pretend we believed the lie so we didn’t hurt feelings.

KA clearly doesn’t know the history of the last 15 years of this.

I think its a blind trust in governments and policy makers, who quite frankly have got us to this position in the first place. The resistance is about questioning authority.

The medical institution have diagnosed a condition and governments have developed policy. To question any of that is to cast doubt in the institutions themselves, and our relationship with them.

Its protection of institutions as much as it is her seeing mass mocking of an individual who she sees as basically harmless.

puffyisgood · 15/04/2023 11:02

there's nothing I find at all offensive about a gender non-confirming gay man endorsing beer, even if the ad includes a fraudulent subtext that he's a 'girl' or whatever.

but a very thick line was crossed when he was used to endorse women's sporting goods, against a backdrop of vanishingly low female participation rates in sport etc.

I should think that a distinction along these lines would whoosh many metres above Kristi's £500 Notting Hill coiffure.

3WildOnes · 15/04/2023 10:43

Theeyeballsinthesky · 15/04/2023 10:29

Im so bored of people wading into this without having given women at least the courtesy of doing even a tiny little bit of research to understand why it’s such an issue instead of assuming we’re too stupid or meeeaaann to have come up with a compromise position

So fucking patronising

Maybe people have done research but have just come to a different conclusion.

Flowerly · 15/04/2023 10:35

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Seriously? Ridiculous post.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 15/04/2023 10:29

Im so bored of people wading into this without having given women at least the courtesy of doing even a tiny little bit of research to understand why it’s such an issue instead of assuming we’re too stupid or meeeaaann to have come up with a compromise position

So fucking patronising

VisitationRights · 15/04/2023 10:26

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 15/04/2023 10:10

When i read her tweets, i had the impression that she didnt believe men could be female, or to be a woman was a performance.

I read it as her wanting to indulge men. She believes that we can call men 'she' while winking, and when it matters we can exclude these men?

If that's true, what she is saying as the we should all go along with the pretence, but the other important people get to decide when and how it stops.

And therein lies the problem, we are in this mess because we allowed ourselves to ‘be kind’ and pretend we believed the lie so we didn’t hurt feelings.

KA clearly doesn’t know the history of the last 15 years of this.

Tillyteacup · 15/04/2023 10:24

I was disappointed how ignorant and unintelligent she seems. She has the stance of a teenager who doesn’t quite know how to argue her point properly as she still isn’t sure of herself. For some reason I assumed she would be more articulate and clever.

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 15/04/2023 10:21

She just objects to the pile on of individual trans people.

Its a difficult balance.

If women complain about how transitioning mocks women, we are told that's not true. We give examples, we are targeting individuals, when we talk in general terms, we are told we a told we are misinterpreting the process.

I dont know how women can prove the misogyny if we are stopped from proving it.

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 15/04/2023 10:10

When i read her tweets, i had the impression that she didnt believe men could be female, or to be a woman was a performance.

I read it as her wanting to indulge men. She believes that we can call men 'she' while winking, and when it matters we can exclude these men?

If that's true, what she is saying as the we should all go along with the pretence, but the other important people get to decide when and how it stops.

EmotionalSupportHyena · 15/04/2023 10:03

ControversialOpening · 15/04/2023 09:56

Allsopp is right wing. Funny, I thought TERFS were all right wing, while the righteous woke lefties were the supporters of trans'women'.

Naw.

Theresa May, Penny Mordaunt and Amber Rudd were all key figures in the original plan to introduce self ID for the GRC.

It’s never been a neat left/right issue.

3WildOnes · 15/04/2023 10:02

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I dont think she can be called a TRA she agrees that biological sex is important. She agrees that sports and safe spaces should be segregated based on biology.
She just objects to the pile on of individual trans people.

ControversialOpening · 15/04/2023 09:56

Allsopp is right wing. Funny, I thought TERFS were all right wing, while the righteous woke lefties were the supporters of trans'women'.

Roadtrips · 15/04/2023 09:47

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Triselly · 15/04/2023 07:47

And now she’s pinned some incredibly patronising message to her profile. And continues to get ratioed. I don’t think all the insulting her is very constructive though, I appreciate she is being an idiot but I don’t want to see her turned away from peaking.

puffyisgood · 15/04/2023 07:13

Mrstwiddle · 15/04/2023 05:32

I saw that. I'm actually really surprised by her stance, for some reason I thought she was not unintelligent.

Nah, she’s an utter fool. Knows a lot about how the horsey set decorates its castles. Less than nothing about anything else. The idea of weighing up conflicting arguments etc is totally foreign to her.