Daniel Radcliffe again

The line isn't that there are similarities in the conditions themselves. But that there is a clear pattern of social contagion in teenage girls with these conditions. As well as with with forms of self harm like cutting, the trend of claiming to have Dissociative Identity Disorder or the case of the town where most of the teenage girls 'got' Tourettes.

I get that it is not about losing weight and more about control - the two people I know closest to me who developed ED it has been more like OCD. For one, a teenager, it was prompted by veganism and online groups pushing a purity spiral. But OCD is closely related to Body Dysmorphic Disorder. I don’t see a clear line between this and trans though.

@faffadoodledo I'm a master mistress of understatement

@IcakethereforeIam very few similarities. EDs are rarely about body dysphoria. They begin as a means of exerting control and generally proceed that way. There is a lot of literature on it.
Craze is indeed a poor choice of word. To say the least.

@faffadoodledo all the best to you and your daughter. I don't know the original post and cba arsed to look for it, perhaps 'craze' was a poor choice of words. There does seem to be a similarity in some (probably not all) cases, with social contagion and other things.

Plus there's been clinical agreement on EDs for a long time. Not so with the trans issue I would say.

Well for a start EDs have been around forever. Literally. Sure there seems to have been an uptick. But that could be down to more reporting.
It's a complex area linked with control and change and depression and anxiety as well as unhappiness about an individual's body. In fact it's rarely about losing weight.

I narrowly dodged getting entrenched in an ED in the 1980s and sadly my DD has one now - tho is doing well now.

I really take exception to such a complex set of behaviours (not just anorexia) being lumped into the same zone as a 'craze'

I deliberately didn't tag the culprit but wanted the throwaway thought interrogated

Can you elaborate on why not?

I've just seen anorexia described as a 'craze' in this thread, comparable to 'trans'. It's really not.

He and Prince Harry really are cut from the same cloth, aren’t they?

The sort of people who latch onto every trend a couple of years too late, and are only as intelligent as the last person they talked to.

It be a height thing, being teased and taking the tesing seriously.

It's funny how he is always perceived as significantly younger than he is, rather than a middle aged man.

Peter Pan, really. Who never grew up.

Peter pan wants to expand the number of lost boys by making them permanently pre pubesant... interesting

Of course it is true that as a child he was essentially exiled from most other children, educated mainly on set with the other child actors. He has said himself that he is not very gifted academically. Many other child actors who have made far less money and been less famous have not enjoyed very happy later lives.

The big problem, though, is that the part he was playing was of a powerful person who could manipulate reality, behave in a way which transcended gravity, for example. So he has rather less grasp on reality than if he had been playing a child in a ‘normal’ school setting, coping with the realities of, for example, working parents on low wages.

Peter Pan, really. Who never grew up.

I like that he cancelled Dan who cancelled JKR.

Matt is correct that people are going along with an evil ideology.

Matt is traditional, Conservative and Catholic. Blue was traditionally a femine colour due to association with the Virgin Mary. Matt would view blue being associated with boys as a modern idea. His gender role ideas are associated with boys providing for and protecting a large family on one income.

I'm pretty sure he has commented on the example of boys playing with dolls, and he said it was OK.

Now if they stuck with being very gender non-conforming, maybe he wouldn't be so happy.

Indeed. It would be interesting to hear whether he thought they were no longer "real boys" if they did this. Or if this was OK in his world of "gender roles". But if they aren't real boys, and sex is binary, are they now.. girls?

Much to unpick. It would certainly be an interesting debate were it ever to happen.

To be honest - Matt Walsh was being a bit of a twat. Not for what he initially said about sex roles, male as protector is a role I can appreciate (though as with most stereotypes its female equivalent Mamma Bear exists too) But I just didn't believe what he said about his sons. Well ok I'm sure it's fine by him if his sonds don't like superheroes but I can't see him being too chuffed if they did an Az Hakeem and toted a case full of Barbie dolls around and spent their time happily dressing the dolls up. And I very much wonder what he would have done about it if they had.

... and a feminist.
Specifically on that topic alone. With the generic acceptance that for the purpose of the debate "gender" refers to women and men.

True. Definitely an interesting angle that could open up some discussion on the whole subject. I'd love to see a debate between him and a gender identity advocate, specifically on what gender and gender traits/roles are.

But making the point, that he was a conservative that actually believed in gender roles, and yet the progressives were being way stricter than him about it.

Nothing creepy about the bloke in green,no sir nothing creepy at all.

Thank you for posting this.

It was an interesting watch. I found it difficult setting aside my annoyance at Matt Walsh's insistence that gender roles were valid (I'm aware that he has other views as well that I disagree with) but interesting that we unite on the Daniel Radcliffe issue. But I'm a critical thinking adult and am at peace with the idea that Matt Walsh and I can hold very different views on some subjects yet agree on others. That's how life works.

By contrast, Daniel Radcliffe has completely denounced and distanced himself from JKR as a person from what I can see. He really does have a lot of growing up to do.

Julie Burchill isn’t wrong on this one about how privileged from birth lives are very shielded from the realities of gender identity politics.

I'm not a fan of Julie Burchill but that made me laugh out loud a few times. My favourite response was from Helen Joyce on Twitter, who simply quote tweeted an article about this and wrote: "This man is an idiot".

Those five words managed to cover it quite succinctly.