Daniel Radcliffe again

Nooo, let her play with the chainsaw - kids know what they want.

Well they've had the baby now maybe this will make him grow up and change his tune.

Indeed!

Radcliffe’s partner could have every physical attribute that would stereotypically be defined as male but if she’s a biological woman then she’s a woman and nothing will change that.
Yes, but screw the fact she can face abuse for not being womanly 🙄 enough, though?
That does hurt us all as it plays into what a woman "should" look like, how they should behave etc

Oh sorry, yes I did misunderstand!

TRAs = MRAs.

They are the same.

You misunderstand me. I’m saying that the idea that it’s “transphobic” to print that picture of Radcliffe’s partner shows that this ideology - including the definition of “transphobia” as it’s used here - is harmful to women because of how it is defining how a woman should be. Radcliffe’s partner could have every physical attribute that would stereotypically be defined as male but if she’s a biological woman then she’s a woman and nothing will change that.

Only here could TRAs get blamed for transphobes accidentally slipping into misogyny.

That's not transphobia affecting all women, it's gender ideology.

I'm not sure I'd agree that transphobia affects "all women".

I’d say the reaction to this photograph in terms of the accusations of “transphobia” for printing a picture of Erin being taller, shows why it does. Despite having actually had a baby, Radcliffe’s partner is being labelled as trans because she doesn’t fit the stereotype of what a woman is according to gender ideology. Too tall, certainly taller than her partner, perhaps masculine features - sorry love, you don’t match the criteria so you can’t possibly be a woman.

Attitudes like that absolutely do harm all women because it reduces womanhood to a set of attributes which we are expected to fit into. Add in the TRA mindset that you become a woman by putting on makeup, heels and a frock (thus indicating that that’s what a woman is expected to wear) and those are harmful stereotypes we’ve spent decades trying to get rid of.

I'm so condescending - won't let my small children play with matches or knives.

Oh wait I'm just a good parent who would not let my children medically transition

This is a really bizarre thing to focus on and blame feminists for. As far as I can see no feminist has suggested that Erin is a transwoman, or whatever the jibes are. As far as I can see it's a cheap shot made by your typical online trolling commentator because of his previous comments about transgender ideology.

Oh I thought Radcliffe was just small. That sounds like really weird comments and I don't consider them feminist or GC at all.

But there's still nothing wrong or transphobic about the BBC not pretending he's taller. So are the TRAs saying the BBC should have chosen a different picture also being transphobic? If the reasoning is it might be considered to make her look trans, so what? Unless they think that's a bad thing somehow.

Poor woman 😞

I'm over 6 feet tall too. Since I became aware of this whole world, I've wondered I'll get the same questioning look/comments one day.

Sadly it just adds to why there is a huge sorry mess.

I fully disagree with Daniel Radcliffe's position on children who identify as trans and have made comments to that effect further up this thread. However, I would never want to see it impact his partner in such a hateful way.

I'm not sure I'd agree that transphobia affects "all women". However, on this occasion it sounds like hateful comments about being trans (even though she isn't) are being directed towards her. I'm always cynical about what would constitute transphobia. I disagree that saying that a transwoman is a man is transphobic for example - it's a biological fact.

What's going on with Radcliffe & baby &twitter? There seems to be a rash of TRAs on twitter complaining that the BBC used a photo that doesn't disguise the height difference between Daniel and Erin and this somehow shows transphobia. At least I think that's what they're objecting to in the photo, but really confused

I've seen a lot of people on Twitter saying that she's a man, with comments saying stuff like "erm... lol look at her height, that's a man" and stupid stuff like that.
She's just had a baby for crying out loud, she's not trans but that doesn't stop lots of comments pulling her for not looking "womanly " enough, that she's too tall to be a woman etc
Transphobia hurts all women which is why I can never stand alongside it.

What's going on with Radcliffe & baby &twitter? There seems to be a rash of TRAs on twitter complaining that the BBC used a photo that doesn't disguise the height difference between Daniel and Erin and this somehow shows transphobia. At least I think that's what they're objecting to in the photo, but really confused.

Congratulations to them and all that.

Any piss taking about relative height is coming from misogynists not GC people.

Any piss taking about Daniel's sudden ability to discriminate between male and female in choosing a girlfriend who is able to have a baby, and in being able to tell the sex of said baby, is down to Daniel's hypocrisy. And nothing to do with a lovely picture of a happy couple.

Meanwhile I will look forward to Daniel transitioning his toddler into cat/owl/train/superhero according to the time of day. The press interviews will be brilliant. Different name each time. Kids know who they are.

Don’t underestimate the extent to which believers can throw their own children under the bus.

Daniel and his wife have had a baby girl. I wonder how long his support for trans ideology will last.

Starting to wonder if Radcliffe's hard drive needs seizing......

There is plenty of evidence that eating disorders are driven by social contagion. It doesn't mean every individual with an eating disorder developed it because of contagion but it does mean that an awful lot do. If you understand how very serious eating disorders are, then you also have to understand why it's so very, very important that we understand why so many of them occur as that's essential to be able to prevent that kind of occurrence.

As for the seeds having to be there. The seeds have to be there for girls to go trans too. Just because there is clearly contagion doesn't mean that there aren't other factors. Not every girl succumbs to social contagion. Understanding that the contagion exists and working out why some are more affected than others is important to help those affected now and to prevent it in the future. But pretending the link isn't there will hamper that.

I feel strongly that the term diminishes and dismisses the seriousness of the condition. There are parallels between many conditions. Doesn't mean they need to lumped together in the same dismissive way.
Using the word 'craze' makes it appear like it's something that is transitory and will disappear in a puff of smoke just as it might have arrived. It doesn't. And you will only be 'infected' with the contagion if the mental health conditions are right (or wrong).
MN has always been a supportive and understanding place for EDs. Not so much the trans issue. By lumping them together what does that say about attitudes towards EDs? Dismissive at best I'd say.

While I agree with you that the word 'craze' is inappropriate, there is a well documented element of social contagion with trans identifying girls, eating disorders, tics etc.

Because you don't feel it is personally relevant doesn't make it untrue. There is a huge amount of study on the phenomenon

Correction: all my life since my teens. The teen onset is one of the many parallels.

I have had EDs all my life and see a lot of parallels, there is a chapter in Hadley Freeman's Good Girls where several former GIDS clinicians make the same connections. Anorexia is mental illness with highest death rate, understanding there's a social contagion element doesn't (to me) diminish it's seriousness or the suffering caused.

Doesn't make it a craze. For an ED to happen the conditions to seed it have to be there in the first place. It won't just happen if someone gives it a go because their mate does.
The one I've observed at close quarters was quite unique. The behaviours which developed around it were too.
Calling it a craze and comparing it with a trans 'craze' is so very wrong

There is a well documented contagion element to eating disorders - this article is about bulimia: www.thecut.com/article/how-bulimia-became-a-medical-diagnosis.html and a slightly less accessible paper on anorexia citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=586288c2cdebc2f6fa8fbd8e8f3646782912fd60