Starmer insults women’s intelligence to blame Sunak for judicial failures when it was Starmer’s CPS that failed to prosecute rapists

Some countries that cross the edge of time zones decide to pick one for the whole country. Which makes sense with a country like Ireland that isn't very big, it would be a major pain in the ass to have just the west coast be an hour behind the rest of the country.

In a big country you don't really have the luxury of doing that, if Canada had all one timezone, you'd have Vancouver being at noon at the time when the sun was highest in Vancouver, but in Newfoundland it would be noon when the sun was setting, at least in winter.

Anyway @TooBigForMyBoots my friend, are you going to come back to this thread and talk to me?

Thank you . I think it's BST/DST that really messes with my head, always has done. Measuring time is one thing but trying to meddle with it feels like Tower of Babel levels of arrogance.

Yeh I’m not sure why pp was so moved to start another thread on it

Some countries have multiple time zones others don’t

I still dont understand time zones either and having just looked it up, if they were straight lines then half of Ireland would have a different time zone.

As it happens the time zone goes around Iceland, Ireland, Portugal and more.
So shrug, we are not all that clued up on time zones. Hardly the crime of the century.

I think this is right. Every 15 degrees left or right you go (east or west), it's plus or minus one hour (with a few minor variations for convenience).

Which is why I was so shocked, once, that South Africa, despite being a long way away, is only two hours ahead.

Ok thanks, well that's the risk of saying something stupid on a public forum.

I still don't understand time zones.

Yes, I saw it yesterday. It’s called something like “Fuck me pink and call me Rosie” or something similarly dramatic and attention seeking.

That was a dick move, @TooBigForMyBoots

PS. Am I really in AIBU?

Oh dear. Never mind, at least it's given us all a break from Boots talking about the Tories.

They linked it because you made a nasty sneering post in AIBU about people not knowing timezones of their own country and then lied about it being a TAAT. If there's negativity, you've caused it.

Thank you Needmoresleep It's ok though - ridiculous to have got to my age without understanding time zones (I still don't though.)

I imagine Labour are basically doing a lot of market research at the moment - throwing out ideas and seeing how they go down with the public before they write their manifesto.

Floisme, all I know is that the west coast of Ireland feels as if it should be in a different time zone, though not as much as the west coast of France which has very late summer evenings.

Anyway came back to post that Keir has done it again. This time on Council tax rises, not women.

Its weird. As if the Labour Party wonks are sitting around asking “which are the issues where we feel vulnerable”. Then deciding that attack the Tories is the best form of defence.

Abetter strategy might be to consider where their offer is better than that of the Conservatives. If they struggle, and the problem seems to either not listening to voters/members, or from sitting on the fence and failing to agree/articulate what they stand for, then they need to tackle that first.

Oh so worldwide humiliation then excellent . Thank you for telling me @TooBigForMyBoots**
I appreciate it.

If you're the op. have you pointed out that it's time zones and BST I've never understood, as opposed to the location of Ireland? I'm asking because that was the conclusion you seemed to come to yourself on here? You don't have to of course, My ignorance is all mine.

Floisme some posters (not on this thread) linked your comments here on a thread that I started. I hope you have not experienced any negativity.

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Cause I know where lots of places are but I have no idea of the time zone^.

Are you serously telling me that you don't know that NI is in the same time as the rest of the UK?

Time zones are based to some extent on lines of longitude, but not always exactly so. As Northern Ireland is longitudinally to the west of the mainland of the U.K. it is understandable not to be sure what their time zone is.

I’m fine with it switching as I like later lighter evenings in summer

Yes, time zones run top to bottom.

I also would like to just keep the same times all year. And I think noon should be when the sun is highest, that's what it's supposed to mean.

If people want more time in the morning/evening, they can change their schedules, get up earlier, stay up later. Shops could have different summer hours, if they wanted. Adapt to the seasons rather than trying to pretend nature adapts to our whims.

Errr I think I would have guessed that Ireland is in the same time zone as UK mainland. But I actually dont know. I thought time zones ran down from top to bottom so it's not a stretch to imagine a timezone line down the sea between us.

Have to agree with gmt/BST. Just pick one and use it permanently. I'm sick of changing. I always shout at the TV when someone comes on and says we'll save electricity cos it'll be lighter in the mornings. Yes mate but it'll be darker in the evening when we will use all that electricity we saved that morning. Or kids can come home from school in daylight, yes mate but they are going to school in the dark.
That old saying about equal and opposite actions.

The attack ads don't seem to have worked

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/apr/16/labour-rishi-sunak-attack-ad

It's just really lazy politics in my opinion to say that Tories are vile so we should vote to lose women's rights.

Why such low expectations?

Each of the three main political parties are shit on gender issues, I should have said.

But presumably shit in different ways as Starmer takes a different line to Sunak. Which do you prefer, and what approach do you think politicians should be taking?

Well I'm not ashamed to say I was mortified enough last night to get onto Google but I'm afraid I came away pretty sharpish after reading that France has 12 time zones. (I'm guessing that includes French territories but who knows.) So I'm afraid I'm none the wiser . Blame my dad who, when I was about 7, used to make a great show of going round the house changing all the clocks while I watched, feeling like my head was being turned inside out. I think we mess with timey wimey at our peril.

Oops thought I was on a Brexit thread. Each of the three main political parties are shit on gender issues, I should have said.
I’m just hoping there’s a local party that focuses on traffic calming measures or something who I can vote for with a clear conscience in the local elections. (The LD candidate dropped off some election literature so I rang her up and told her why, as a previous LD member, I could no longer vote for them.)

I don't care which time they have I've just like it to stay the fucking same the whole year round. GMT is just fine, all the time.