Starmer insults women’s intelligence to blame Sunak for judicial failures when it was Starmer’s CPS that failed to prosecute rapists

I think you could increase rape convictions if cases could get in to court quicker. Currently the lack of barristers and judges, backlogs & closure of many courts mean victims and witnesses can wait several years and have often had trials rescheduled.
It's only part of the problem of course but it's a significant issue.

@MarshaBradyo I am a floating voter, and naturally right of centre.

but I do expect integrity from the people running the country.

I am appalled at the way this country has been run since 2010. You only need to look at the threads on here about how this country has declined in recent years.

the vast majority of us are poorer than we’ve been for years.

unfortunately I don’t see Labour as an alternative yet, but no way would I vote Conservative now.

I think this is a bit of an odd choice by Labour. But I think rape cases are a problem no matter what strategy is used, prosecute a lot, or only prosecute those with a high chance of conviction. Because sure, you can go ahead and put more through the courts but if they are unsuccessful that looks shitty, and IS shitty, too.

Trying to won more cases is another problem altogether and I don't think anyone really has a handle on that, including Labour.

My gut feeling is they were trying to find something that makes the Tories look bad on women's issues, to try and push back against the gender ideology problem Labour is facing in the polls. I'm not sure they've found it though.

But maybe most people will take it at face value?

They are tribal and can't seem to put themselves in others shoes. When I was a member I pointed things out to them, they would get angry and say a Nusre should vote labour, or the WC should vote labour as it was better for them, they wouldn't entertain that someone wouldn't be tribal.

I tries to explain I knew someone who wouldn't vote for anyone short because short people used to joke how is the weather up there? Stupid I know yet that's what people are like.

I knew someone who votes for Blair and Cameron because they said they are nice to look at when on the news.

I knew someone who said they turned the TV off when Brown was on as his jaw tick made then feel nauseous.

The Government can require the SC to revisit sentencing guidelines. They've done it quite recently. The SC then has a statutory duty to review them. The Government also has representatives at the review meetings.
Part of the issue will always be lack of prison places (a lot of which are taken up by those on remand).

Well yes they want to educate the unwashed bigots in to the ways of ladypeen and queer theory rather than listen to voters.

Your own claim is very silly.

Hypothetically Starmer could have been kicking and screaming against the policy in meetings, and in that situation OK he wouldn't be responsible. Have Labour tried to argue that? Did Starmer care enough to put anything on the record at the time?

Starmer was likely a part of the decision, and that makes him responsible.

Now the government is also responsible, because in theory it could just pass a new law giving mandatory minimums that everyone gets locked up.

But Starmer is still responsible and a hypocrite regardless of the government having ultimate control.

There was a political spokesperson on the other day who correctly pointed out to win Labour need the people who voted Conservative in 2019.

If you’re a committed Labour voter and voted for Corbyn anyway it’s not really your vote that will swing it.

It’s the people in the middle and if they think this ad is annoying or whatever then that’s Labour’s failing.

Labour supporters like to think that everyone sticks to a party but it’s not the case. It’s this belief that helps them lose though.

This is fascinating…I wondered why there’s such outrage over an ad campaign after the behaviour we’ve experienced from the Tories over the past years.

Starmer as DPP had no ability to change sentencing of child abuse- that's a government decision.

It's the Sentencing Council which makes recommendations about sentencing. Keir Starmer was a member of the Sentencing Council.

How will they prevent? Make more mixed sex spaces and gaslight girls at school better?

Do you think the Labour party hasn't done research on attitudes amongst Labour voters and potential voters?

I found this interview with the political scientist Matthew Goodwin quite interesting on the point you raise. Listen from about 3 minutes to about 10 minutes as he explains how Labour seemed far less interested, than the Conservatives, in the research which would have helped them reconnect with their traditional core voter base.

Labour needs to start looking like a Government in waiting. Provide sharp and professional analysis of any failures of the current Government and come up with a slate of their own policies. They need to act as a strong opposition, and as a more palatable alternative to what we have at present.

If they can do this they will win the next election by a mile.

Attack politics are not the answer. Nor are the optics of respected shadow Cabinet members like Yvette Cooper, being left out of the loop.

After everything the Tories have done over the last few years, they’re all up in arms about a pointed ad campaign ?!

was a bit rich listening to Conservative interviewees howling with outrage over this when they think it’s fine to lie and cheat on a daily basis.

I hadn’t paid the ad any attention, until the conservatives made a thing of it.

Sunak is the Prime Minister- he’s in charge. Ultimately he’s responsible for the way the country is run. If he doesn’t like it, maybe make changes to legal system?

But he wasn't a good DPP according to contemporary news reports being circulated on social media. Quite the opposite.

Sshhh, I don't think you're supposed to ask questions like that! Just accept that the Tories are evil and trust it will all be better with Labour and don't worry about all the boring details :)

Labour are only doing well in the polls because people have been pissed off at the Tories. Now that Rishi is doing a half decent job Labour are getting scared and hence these ludicrous attacks on him.

Labour would be better establishing some policies - and telling us about them - and understanding and then protecting women's rights but this will never happen.

On being asked whether labour intended to fund more prisons in order to accommodate more criminals, the answer is no, because they were going to try prevention, rather than tackle punishment, as they're the 'party of optimism

I'm all for optimism but I'm really unsure how you are going to prevent crime. Any crime. A criminal who wants money will always find a way.

Perhaps thats going to be how they do it. Take away safeguarding, change how the victim is perceived, downgrade the crime to the point of decriminalisation ergo no crime. Its been effectively stopped according to statistics. They've already gone this way with certain drugs and paedophilia, and rape is not far behind. And Labour want to go further than that, Its all rather chilling if you look underneath.

With what money? How will they tackle the endemic problems within the police before getting more, from where?

How will you make the general population have any respect for the police? Considering the forces reputation is lower than the floor and sinking.

I know you dont have the answers. I'm just musing out loud as it were.

God I really do think they believe we are stupid and they actually dont want to be in power.

Yes we all remember the white van man incident.

It has to be Rayner, she wants to be leader even if by default and she is a walking DARVO.

Agree.

Exactly this, I'm sure I've given many people the impression that I'm a far-right Trumpist as I tend to primarily criticise the left. But I don't think I need to criticise the right as they're so obviously awful it goes without saying! Plus I tend not to encounter people trying to defend the behaviour of right in my circle whereas too many seem determinedly blind about the behaviour of 'their side'.

Apparently they are going to increase police numbers and patrol. Haven't heard any other strategies yet. Oh, other than optimism of course.

I'm afraid it's not just a matter of Tory voters.

Do you think the Labour party hasn't done research on attitudes amongst Labour voters and potential voters?

Why do you think Starmer has also said that with Labour, Britain will not go back into the EU or join the single market or join a customs union?