1 in 67 English/Welsh Muslims are transgender

It certainly seems that way.

Especially amongst children in the looked after system.

But I imagine it will take many, many years and a lot of hindsight to confirm.

This is really concerning. It is clearly about woolly language and misunderstanding.

This makes me feel even more worried than I already was about women whose first language may not be English knowing which scans and tests to access from the appalling NHS literature. 'Anyone with a cervix' does not cut through like 'woman' does it?

Very worrying and potentially lethal. As we have been pointing out for god knows how long.

Yes you might be able to get local authority level data on people recieving cross sex hormones to compare (though not all people who consider themselves trans take hormones) I'm not familiar with that data source though

No, 1 in 67 Muslims in Newham are almost certainly gay. As are 1 in 67 of the general population.

TRA is an enemy to gays as it is to women. And bloody irritating to most men as well.

Surely this means it's high time Stonewall offered their services to this religious group.

Also

twitter.com/mforstater/status/1645012444627222534?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

Isn't this fabrications of the middle class who have irrational luxury beliefs - inducing illness in the working class and protected characteristic groups?

This is certainly true but not to the extent they're experiencing existential angst over their gender vs sex

I just mean check how many people are receiving eg transition related cross sex hormones in that area and see if the numbers get anywhere close - doesn’t need house-by-house census data.

If it were ‘transing away the gay’ it would surely require medical intervention (whereas down in Brighton all the non-binary and gender fluid types might consider hairstyles to be transition).

what a mess! I suspect some educated people for whom English is their first language, don’t fully understand the new vocabulary

I answer no to questions like "does your gender identity agree with the sex you were born with?"
because I don't have a gender identity.
This may as a pp said skew the results because people might read my answer as meaning I have a different "gender identity". Rather than that I don't have one at all.
It's a bit like asking atheists "do you still follow the religion that your parents did?"

The census is anonymous for 100 years so no this can't be done.

What can be done soon though when they release more data will be to look at the sex of those who said they were trans men or trans women. It's a fair bet that the female "trans women" are ordinary women who didn't understand the question and vice versa.

I wonder if this can be cross referenced with health records or if that’s forbidden due to privacy (especially pertaining to the GRA)?

Cass had to get a legal amendment to look for follow up data on former GIDS patients.

It's not aboutvtransing away the gay, it's that people for whom English is not their first language didn't understand the question, because it wasn't clear.

They've also missed another important Nuance in that article though. Women on here often discuss the question "what is a woman though?" And what does it mean to "feel like a woman?". The vast majority say that they know they are female women but don't feel any particular gender identity. It's possible some would then answer no to that question, "does you gender identity agree with the sex you were born with?" - not because they identify as trans but because they don't recognise/feel/believe in/support the concept of gender or identifying as a gender.

I thought about answering like this, because it's true - born a female so remain a female and am a woman by the definition adult human female, but don't feel any particular gender identity. The only reason I didn't was because I realised that the census was flawed and that that would make me show up statistically as transgender, which I'm not.

This article was written by Michael Biggs who has been instrumental in analysing all the bogus data from the Tavistock, and debunking the suicide myth. Hopefully someone will realise how much of a stuff up this is with him getting this out, before Stonewall set up an outreach office in Newham and beg for funding🙄.

Does it translate that people who have a harder time fitting in and succeeding in our traditional institutions find it so stressful that they doubt themselves and who they are perhaps?

As well as:
'would you like to be in prison with a lot of other men, or would you like to be in a prison with women?'

Yes, me too.

Ask people 'do you identify as transsexual?' and you'd get a different number.

First we have science now statistical data.. How will this be twisted & shut down by the TRA army🤔

I hope no one blindly follows the data and makes decisions based on it or that's going to waste money.

It’s Stonewall preferred policy in action again - claim that transgender people are most vulnerable people in all of society, end up shitting on people who are genuinely marginalised by inability to participate in the public discourse due to language difficulties.

I change name often on here for no reason except personal entertainment but some of you may recall that a lot of my stepdaughter’s gender issues were compounded by the school’s use of highfalutin Queer Theory inspired terminology and her mum speaking English as a THIRD language. Her mum’s confusion (you can’t even check this stuff in a dictionary because the meaning of words keeps slipping) was then weaponised against her as evidence of her importing homophobia from her country of origin!

School is a Bronze Stonewall Champion 😬

I thought the same, but the Spectator article explains the reported rates of trans in those populations outstrips even Brighton & Hove and other trans-friendly areas which seems unlikely.

It was obvious that was going to happen from the way they phrased the questions.

I wonder how long until TRAs read this article and start using the dodgy data to support their claims that the trans population is “the most marginalised?”

Also wondering: if TW were overcounted by the census, what the true denominator should be in that infamous imprisoned TW sex offender:TW population ratio.

My initial reaction to that headline was that Muslim and fundamentalist Christian denominations like those found in Brent would be more likely to "trans away the gay" but the issue of language and data collection questions is fascinating.

The strongest predictor of the transgender population across 331 local authorities, as measured by the census, is the proportion of people whose main language is not English.

Women on here predicted, over and over, that the mangling of language will most affect those for whom English is a second language.

I hope those who were captured are held accountable for this absolute shit show of false statistics.