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What is a woman, by modern standards and definitions?

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mamakoukla · 07/04/2023 21:16

Outright - I’m a sex not gender woman. But I’ve reached the point of so what exactly is a woman, as defined by inclusivity to gender based identification? If woman is gender-based, what is a woman by that definition?

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Helleofabore · 07/04/2023 21:36

I am waiting to see what pops up in this search for a definition as well.

JacquelinePot · 07/04/2023 21:34

One of those Matt Walsh clips the other day had a man saying that he knows he's a woman because women tell him so. That was a new one on me.

thegrain · 07/04/2023 21:33

I mean all jokes aside I'm not even sure now. I am what I thought was a woman but I don't really go round identifying or feeling like one. I just am.

MarinaRhinella · 07/04/2023 21:32

From what I see, this is how the trans-ID males see the definition -
Woman, n. A vacuous bimbo who has an unhealthy obsession with their penis and breasts, poor dress sense, bad make-up and like to take selfies in public toilets.

thegrain · 07/04/2023 21:31

According to S.Twain it is:

the prerogative to have a little fun
Confusingly, Men's shirts, short skirts
And something about dying your hair.

EmotionalSupportHyena · 07/04/2023 21:29

mamakoukla · 07/04/2023 21:18

@EmotionalSupportHyena so not just me then?

Definitely not just you!

None of the new-fangled definitions seem to include me - I’m a woman because I was conceived as a female zygote, born a baby girl and was lucky enough to live long enough to pass the age of majority in my country of origin.

Everything else is personality or aesthetics because the only thing that makes me a woman is being an adult human female.
🤷‍♀️

devildeepbluesea · 07/04/2023 21:29

It’s really not difficult is it.

Woman = adult human female.

anyone else claiming to be a woman is simply wrong.

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mamakoukla · 07/04/2023 21:29

@MarinaRhinella so apart from the physical characteristics, what else? What are the particular aspects of having those body parts that leads to some particular non-biology based characteristics or behaviours that identify a person as woman? We are told it’s not about sex hence the question. If it’s not sex, what is a woman?

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TrombonesAreNotBones · 07/04/2023 21:27

I do wish someone would tell us, in a non-circular closed manner.

I mean, we are told pretty much that men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are. And that's that. A thought terminating statement.

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mamakoukla · 07/04/2023 21:26

This is it - if a person identifies as a woman, what are the particular characteristics that are essential to the term woman as opposed to… penguin or tree or unhappy man? I know I’m a woman because I have XX chromosomes and other physical characteristics but if it wasn’t for that why would I be a woman?

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MarinaRhinella · 07/04/2023 21:25

Given that the gender-ologists always seem to give a circular definition of "anyone who feels like a woman", if we remove the circularity, maybe what they think is: "Woman: anyone who believes that their brain puts them in the class of people born with the body plan for making large gametes and gestating a fetus, even if they have none of the right bits."

mauvish · 07/04/2023 21:20

It appears that sometimes, a "woman" is actually a person who was "assigned male at birth" but disagrees with that idea.

Why that makes that particular person a woman, rather than a penguin, or a tree, or just an unhappy man, I am not sure. I will watch this thread and learn 😃

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mamakoukla · 07/04/2023 21:18

@EmotionalSupportHyena so not just me then?

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EmotionalSupportHyena · 07/04/2023 21:17

If you ever find out, report back?