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Yewtown · 07/04/2023 14:57

Just saw this in my local paper.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/northern-ireland/english-beer-company-cuts-ties-with-belfast-pub-following-secret-screening-of-documentary/1376264112.html

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EmotionalSupportHyena · 07/04/2023 19:00

Grammarnut · 07/04/2023 18:54

I thought the pub claimed to be inclusive. That's inclusive meaning: except we exclude women who know their biology, is it?

The pub isn’t excluding anyone.

The discriminatory knobheads are the owners of the pub’s suppliers.

EmotionalSupportHyena · 07/04/2023 18:58

The pub’s statement is fine, imo. They rented a room out. As long as the room hirers weren’t using the space for criminal activities the pub has no obligation to give a rats arse what was going on in there. In fact, refusing to rent the room to gender critical women could’ve resulted in a discrimination claim against the pub.

Fuck the brewery brand, loads of other options for the pub to chose stock from.

Grammarnut · 07/04/2023 18:54

PriOn1 · 07/04/2023 15:02

So the pub claims it didn’t know what was being shown, but TRAs are still calling for a boycott, while women’s rights campaigners will probably not go back because the bar has disowned and defamed them.

I thought the pub claimed to be inclusive. That's inclusive meaning: except we exclude women who know their biology, is it?

Littlesprouts · 07/04/2023 18:20

A cursory look doesn't show the brewery making any public statement about this so I am ready to stand corrected. It's still not clear where this story has come from.

If they've made a principled decision behind the scenes to stop supplying somewhere they don't want to, and are not rallying TRAs to get the whole pub shut down forever, that still makes a change.

WhiteFire · 07/04/2023 18:18

That seems a very non committal statement from the pub, I think they have navigated it very well, and kept it fairly neutral.

FOJN · 07/04/2023 17:55

I thought times would be tough for businesses what the the CoL crisis and everything but they've decided to do a Bud light anyway. Good luck to them.

Littlesprouts · 07/04/2023 17:20

A pretty sensible report there - doesn't use the phrase 'anti trans' anywhere. Cloud Water did not respond when apparently approached for comment, so it's not clear where the story came from - usually a sanctimonious social media post, so it's interesting that if there was one the Telegraph didn't see fit to publish it.

Fair enough if Cloud Water want to throw a strop, I don't think this will make any difference to them or the pub and as a consumer I know I'll swerve them in future just as others will support them.

The impartiality of the Telegraph is refreshing, actually. Makes a change from a local rag's LGBT+ reporter trying to get clicks by trawling social media posts and calling everyone bigots.

PriOn1 · 07/04/2023 15:02

So the pub claims it didn’t know what was being shown, but TRAs are still calling for a boycott, while women’s rights campaigners will probably not go back because the bar has disowned and defamed them.

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