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Riley Gaines assaulted

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Clymene · 07/04/2023 07:28

She is the swimmer who has spoken out about Lia Thomas (both about him exposing himself in the changing room and being forced to compete against him). Now she's been attacked at San Francisco state university

twitter.com/hogshead3au/status/1644202379376578560?s=61&t=gd6tu0Iz6JpyKXGLWMLGjg

The mob violence is escalating

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slowquickstep · 07/04/2023 11:50

Twisted, warped fuckwits.

CheekyRascals · 07/04/2023 11:48

Misstache · 07/04/2023 11:39

Also, wtf:

The officers who went to the suspect's home said that Whitworth was drunk, sitting on her bed, which had brown stained sheets.

Eric Berne had a game that goes with those sheets and displays of descrustive behaviour in someone else's space hence the GRA has to go.

I think he was actually describing men not women, like many in MH I think he was misogynistic.

His work is interesting especially how he described people giving children lifescripts.

Some people will never be OK, I think like Jeusus that peadophiles should always be written off.

Misstache · 07/04/2023 11:39

Whatsnewpussyhat · 07/04/2023 11:24

Another man being called a woman and she/her throughout the article.

Thank fuck his sister called the police.

Also, wtf:

The officers who went to the suspect's home said that Whitworth was drunk, sitting on her bed, which had brown stained sheets.

Signalbox · 07/04/2023 11:36

Whatsnewpussyhat · 07/04/2023 11:24

Another man being called a woman and she/her throughout the article.

Thank fuck his sister called the police.

And yet Hale is still referred to as "she" in that article.

Misstache · 07/04/2023 11:35

I think the particular violence in this case is because this is one definitive issue almost no one agrees with. Remember that Trans group did the survey and on TW in sports no matter what the political orientation, the vast vast majority were against TW competing with women. (And then the Trans group recommended tying it is an issue to Black rights to try to get people to agree.) So they can’t let Riley speak because even your committed liberal who hates Republicans and is sympathetic to Trans kids and believes Trans women are dying and all the rest still doesn’t think sports should be mixed. And if they’re honest, they’re uncomfortable with penis in the change room too. So to avoid actually confronting that no sane woman wants to see unsolicited penis, they have to shut Riley down violently. They know any normal person listening will say “hang on, I believe in Trans rights, but I didn’t think that meant getting naked in the change rooms or winning championships against women.” They can’t allow that to happen so the screaming and violence is the distraction.

CheekyRascals · 07/04/2023 11:35

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“The propensity to experience schadenfreude isn’t entirely unique, but it overlaps substantially with other ‘dark’ personality traits, such as sadism, narcissism, and psychopathy,” Lilienfeld says. “Moreover, different subforms of schadenfreude may relate somewhat differently to these often malevolent traits.” Ordinary people may temporarily lose empathy, but those with darker traits are either less able or less motivated to put themselves in the shoes of others

https://www.emory.edu/EMORY_MAGAZINE/issues/2019/winter/points-of-interest/schadenfreude/index.html
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Schadenfreude | Emory University | Atlanta GA

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CheekyRascals · 07/04/2023 11:29

Abhannmor · 07/04/2023 11:22

I agree with the poster who said the National Front was less deranged . They would heckle us at Rock Against Racism of course . But most of the media and cultural establishment was against them.

Whereas the city councils and universities seem to be encouraging these violent sexist thugs. The attitude of the police is most odd. Perhaps they see it as feminists getting their comeuppance?

Of course a lot of the English cops were sympathetic to the National Front . But , for the most part , they tried to be impartial.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1754073918765657

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Instaed of punishment in the next life or reincarnation karma it is a type of this life karma given out by someone who thinks that they are all knowing, all seeing, who is also a contrairian and sadist?

Whatsnewpussyhat · 07/04/2023 11:24

Another man being called a woman and she/her throughout the article.

Thank fuck his sister called the police.

Abhannmor · 07/04/2023 11:22

I agree with the poster who said the National Front was less deranged . They would heckle us at Rock Against Racism of course . But most of the media and cultural establishment was against them.

Whereas the city councils and universities seem to be encouraging these violent sexist thugs. The attitude of the police is most odd. Perhaps they see it as feminists getting their comeuppance?

Of course a lot of the English cops were sympathetic to the National Front . But , for the most part , they tried to be impartial.

nilsmousehammer · 07/04/2023 11:21

Flowerly · 07/04/2023 08:52

They are working their way up to murder. This may sound like hyperbole but I honestly believe that this is where they are going.

I hope that Riley has good protection and is safe.

That.

This is a violent, woman-battering movement rooted in Mens Rights Activism.

It is escalating because of cowardly and politically captured groups who have enabled it rather than presenting it with normal boundaries.

In NZ it would not have taken much at all for this awful movement to have killed two women, goodness knows it tried.

CheekyRascals · 07/04/2023 11:19

It's also the energy given off by men when their team score a goal, that energy doesn't limit itself to that occasion.

CheekyRascals · 07/04/2023 11:16

ArabellaScott · 07/04/2023 11:09

Stasi crossed with Red Guard crossed with Scientology crossed with Jeremy Kyle-audience?

You see this opposite thing, is it defiant disorder? with the women who had a mastectomy and thry are delighted? My daughter and I both noted it with the woman who spoke to KJK in the USA tour, KJK was at the bottom of an amphitheatre.

Contrairians attracted and energised by destruction and violence.

They need to go on watch lists, nobody should be harmed in the home or workplace by them, I dread to think what that GP KJK debated does to patients.

ArabellaScott · 07/04/2023 11:09

Stasi crossed with Red Guard crossed with Scientology crossed with Jeremy Kyle-audience?

CheekyRascals · 07/04/2023 11:08

ArabellaScott · 07/04/2023 11:05

Now that I've RTFT ...

I see the parallels with Mao's China and the Red Guard, but agree this seems slightly different. There's more pseudo-religious thinking involved - gendered souls, etc. The Red Guard was a real collectivist movement (as violent and cruel as it was), whereas genderism seems to be more hyper-individualist. The end goals of the Red Guard was upholding the state - what is the end goal of genderism? Tearing down societal norms?

Although the Red Guard was foccused on destruction of the 'four olds', so maybe that is the common theme. Destruction and attack on the old order, 'revolution', etc. It's just genderism seems to be enacted more inwardly, with body modification, purification rituals, etc.

It's overall destruction, themselves, others and the world alongside the Euphoria excitement that gives them superhuman strength and blocks off the brain from functioning other than in pure attack mode.

ArabellaScott · 07/04/2023 11:05

Now that I've RTFT ...

I see the parallels with Mao's China and the Red Guard, but agree this seems slightly different. There's more pseudo-religious thinking involved - gendered souls, etc. The Red Guard was a real collectivist movement (as violent and cruel as it was), whereas genderism seems to be more hyper-individualist. The end goals of the Red Guard was upholding the state - what is the end goal of genderism? Tearing down societal norms?

Although the Red Guard was foccused on destruction of the 'four olds', so maybe that is the common theme. Destruction and attack on the old order, 'revolution', etc. It's just genderism seems to be enacted more inwardly, with body modification, purification rituals, etc.

Mammillaria · 07/04/2023 11:03

ArabellaScott · 07/04/2023 10:55

There have always been mobs of idiots ready to work themselves into a fever and enact violence on those they see as their enemies.

The crucial point here is that the state and the police, who traditionally have protected the public against extremism, terrorism, and violence, are not unequivocally doing that now.

They are in some cases tacitly supporting and promoting the same ideology espoused by the violent mobs.

I'm not quite sure what the precedent is for that.

I think you've hit the nail on the head

CheekyRascals · 07/04/2023 10:59

ArabellaScott · 07/04/2023 10:55

There have always been mobs of idiots ready to work themselves into a fever and enact violence on those they see as their enemies.

The crucial point here is that the state and the police, who traditionally have protected the public against extremism, terrorism, and violence, are not unequivocally doing that now.

They are in some cases tacitly supporting and promoting the same ideology espoused by the violent mobs.

I'm not quite sure what the precedent is for that.

Maybe we should put a version of Jeremy Kyle back on for them with paid actors for then, they can jump out of their seats in excitement at the physical fights and all be an open prison together and leave the rest of us alone.

ArabellaScott · 07/04/2023 10:55

There have always been mobs of idiots ready to work themselves into a fever and enact violence on those they see as their enemies.

The crucial point here is that the state and the police, who traditionally have protected the public against extremism, terrorism, and violence, are not unequivocally doing that now.

They are in some cases tacitly supporting and promoting the same ideology espoused by the violent mobs.

I'm not quite sure what the precedent is for that.

Mammillaria · 07/04/2023 10:49

Ofcourseshecan · 07/04/2023 10:21

Yes. It’s very similar, except the Red Guards started with a political purpose and this is purely anti-women — very strange. The manic zeal is the same, and the absolute conviction and the thrill of destruction.

The present-day version (Pink Guards?) get bolder every time they get away with carrying out an attack against women. They know the police won’t stop them.

Pink Guard is a good term for it.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/05/15/asia/china-cultural-revolution-red-guard-confession/index.html

The parallels are strong. The Red Guard may have started from a political position, but I don't think that was the reason for its terrifying success.

China: Confessions of a Red Guard

I have lived a life haunted by guilt.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/05/15/asia/china-cultural-revolution-red-guard-confession/index.html

Misstache · 07/04/2023 10:44

This is in America which is where Riley is speaking. Honestly, the segregation and discrimination in pools is well documented.

ResisterRex · 07/04/2023 10:42

black people were banned from public pools until 50 years ago in most places

Wow are we saying the UK had the Jim Crow laws now? Hmm

Misstache · 07/04/2023 10:42

Florissant · 07/04/2023 10:38

black people were banned from public pools until 50 years ago in most places

No. Wrong. This happened in some places in the south of the US.

No, there was official (legal) segregation in the South, but informal segregation in both the U.S. and Canada including in Northern states as well. I actually just read an article about this. I should have said more like 60 years ago, not 50, but black people were frequently banned from public beaches and from pools until well into the 60s.

Ofcourseshecan · 07/04/2023 10:39

CheekyRascals · 07/04/2023 10:06

Having lived with an actual insane (as in has spent months in a mental institution) violent man, I can assure you, increased violence has nothing to do with them losing control of you.

I actually think in his case the opposite is true. He left my Mum when I got to 15, as I was too big to hit anymore. He got really depressed and was crying. I ws jumping for joy, my friends thought I was telling lies that he was leaving as I was so happy, they couldn't understand what life had been like for me. His violence on me was because he couldn't beat up the people who actually upset him or beat up himself, he was a gambler. I see TRA as the same losers and illogical as they can't understand basic things like maths. That's why they get so angry about KJK saying she never loses.

The TRA remind me of him so much, death threats, projection, calling me the Anti-Christ (he was the athiest and one displaying the behaviour not me) demands that I be kind, he never was to me.

They will move in to new targets, we are nothing to them, we aren't fully human to them only they are, we are an object.

CheekyRascals, I’m so sorry you had to endure a childhood like that. You sound very calm now, when noone could blame you if you were filled with hate. Well done for building your own recovery xx