Riley Gaines assaulted

This letter from the university is astonishing.

twitter.com/davidllamas_/status/1644760038626713600?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

I just don't understand how some can be so blinkered that they are unable to condemn violence against women

Sky Australia has a good take on this, Riley's attack is about 2 mins in.

Oops, missed this thread and started another one about Riley Gaines being assaulted. Copying this over from there as I didn't spot these links here:

According to the civil liberties organisation FIRE (the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, formerly the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education):

Last night, protestors at San Francisco State University attempted to shout down and shut down a speaking event with former NCAA swimmer Riley Gaines. The school’s Turning Point USA chapter had invited Gaines to campus to talk about gender and sports, but she was met by an angry crowd chanting and screaming at her to leave.

While Gaines gave her speech, protestors continued to disrupt the event, drowning her out by stomping and yelling inside the room and in the hallway immediately outside while she spoke. After her speech, police attempted to escort Gaines to a secure location, but the crowd followed them out of the room and down the hallway, screaming and shouting until police locked Gaines in a secure room. Gaines reportedly remained trapped inside the room for almost three hours until the protestors dispersed and police escorted her out.
https://archive.ph/SkfFc

According to CNN:

Former NCAA swimmer Riley Gaines said she was assaulted Thursday on the campus of San Francisco State University.

Gaines was at the school to speak about her views opposing the inclusion of transgender athletes in women’s sports, according to the event announcement.

“I was physically assaulted by one person. I was struck twice, both times hitting my shoulder with the second strike grazing my face,” Gaines told CNN’s Natasha Chen. “The rest of the protestors just ambushed and cornered me before I was able to move out with the help of campus police.”
https://archive.ph/m2wXF

Three hours until the police came and three hours that mob barricaded her. They shouted abuse at Black officers. It's disgusting behavior and scary. Of course campus security was frightened

I presume the mob was predominantly made up of students from the university? Three hours barricaded into a room cannot be considered a peaceful protest. I wonder whether the university will make a stand against this? Or are they condoning it?

just watching a documentary on Netflix about the Branch Davidians and they reminded me of this: there's a religious fervour to the TRA's, even the atheists.

Just read the full report from Riley. Three hours until the police came (not surprised by this as it's a major US city and they knew she was with campus security as police are understaffed) and three hours that mob barricaded her. They shouted abuse at Black officers. It's disgusting behavior and scary. Of course campus security was frightened.

That’s because his beliefs are tribal not critical or rational. He gets adulation from his tribe for criticising Christianity, an easy target that doesn’t fight back. He gets approbation and ostracisation for criticising gender ideology.

All of that tells you Matt whoever he is, is a coward whose views were never genuinely based on rigorous critical thinking, just the desire to fight in with a crowd that defined someone else as ‘other’.

I've been surprised a couple of prominent atheists have joined this cult. Matt Dillahunty believes magic words can't turn a cracker in to the body of Christ, but he thinks a man can become a woman without even magic words.

Absolute insanity

Surely no one could hear that rhythmic chanting of 'transwomen are women' and not conclude that this movement is the 'c' word we're not allowed to mention.

Much of that is evidenced, it is very worrying. 4 and 5 particularly ring bells.

Slightly off topic but the photo of the women in Afghanistan and similar in Iran are not what they seem.

Very few women in Afghanistan, none outside Kabul were allowed to dress that way. It's a bit like photos of punks in the 1970s, yes some people dressed like that but very few.

The pictures in 1960/70s Iran are even more dishonest, the Shah had decreed women wear modern western dress, there were cases of grandmothers having their traditional clothing ripped off them in the street.

The clothes women wear in Iran and wore in 1960s Iran are both dictated by men, the clothing is different but neither group of women are choosing what to wear.

Bloody hell, that is chilling. That exactly describes the trans movement.

Trans terrorism.

https://thefederalist.com/2023/04/07/leftists-violate-separation-of-church-and-state-with-spiritual-sel-in-public-schools/

Social-emotional learning will soon become spiritual-ethical learning.

Many already follow this religion and would swear blind that they don't have a religion.

Their commandments are:-

Love the allocated special people as if they ard your God only, "be kind" only to special people, you don't deserve any kindness or love for yourself or non special people.

Channels Uxbridge "You must tell lies"

Include people who revolt and scare you, over ride your natural instincts.

You must use our language and new dictionary.

You aren't allowed to believe anything you want to, you must believe what we tell you to.

Equality, only in the intersectionality way

Diversity, only in the way we decree.

Comment piece by Riley. It's quite disturbing reading:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11950063/RILEY-GAINES-hit-face-man-dressed-woman-speaking-against-trans-movement.html

The stories of detransitioners ring very true to me. They built an identity based on a lie and the work to undo it requires a lot of strength and many years of deprogramming.

Yes! This is exactly what has me so worried about the little kids. The interventions now are so wrong and misguided, it is the opposite of what is needed. All this focus on the self! I remember the moment my psyche collapsed in therapy. I had actually gone to the therapist to talk about disordered eating. He started asking about my mother... ha.
Well. I recalled neglect etc etc. And certain formative events. Like in the school playground at age 9, sitting alone while other children played, and ignored me. How sad.
Then... like a suppressed memory. I realised I had been pretending to be sad for attention. I had blocked that part away. The other kids were probably quite wisely ignoring my bullshit. Seems small but I had built an entire identity in my teens and early 20s of this misunderstood bullied kid. It was almost entirely imagined, I think. The realisation was mind bending quite honestly, I cried for weeks and the Internet explained npd to me and I knew.
So I worry about these kids because when you encourage them to reinvent themselves as a victim in order to be special and that becomes their invented personality it isn't their true selves at all! It is a monster! I am so angry about all this.

DipsyLaLaPo · Today 06:10
I too am impressed and moved by your post, not just interested.

DipsyLaLaPo · Today 06:10

What you described about your experience of feeling an outsider, but superior and hating, and the hyper-focussed type, is very interesting.

Re: what you say here about early interventions,
I think the Intervention forces needs to start young as pp said I realise you mean in relation to disordered personalities.

But far from intervening to the good, the interventions are starting with the young to try to confuse some children into thinking they have an inner gender at odds with themselves, and that they need special attention apart from all the other children who must lie for them.

Wow, @DipsyLaLaPo , I am really moved by your post. You are amazingly strong and deeply impressive. That level of self-realization and self-work is massively difficult. Few people, even without NPD, manage that. I’m genuinely impressed.

The red guard is a clue - this is about large scale social upheaval and transformation. It is a sociological phenomenon.

I believe the motivation of these people is a desire to keep faith with the belief in 'progress', which now means social progress. After the suffragettes and the black civil rights movement and gay rights, trans rights are seen as the next step - towards a future utopia of peace and equality and democracy.
This devotion to social progress has taken on greater urgency as the parallel economic progress which we were supposed to see has stopped and gone into reverse.

In the mind of these rioters, they are on the 'right side of history', and are clinging to their belief in progress for dear life, in the face of all evidence to the contrary. The anger comes from extreme fear - fear that the future isn't going to be the bright shiny one we were all promised.

I think I would have been one of these people if I hadn't also suffered from depression and extreme social anxiety at that age.

In my late 20s after a bit of therapy I self diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. The therapist didn't dissuade me. It messed my head for many years after.

When you are an outsider as a teen who can't form proper friendships at school, university is like a utopia. All those years hiding in your room hating, hating, understanding nothing but believing you are the one who knows the truth. Obsessed completely with your self and your thoughts and your hatred of your own body because society has rejected you.

Then university. You find your tribe. It is a kind of euphoria to be accepted at last. A fresh start. Your desperation to be accepted by these people is extreme. I spent hours online chatting with these people. Hardly left my room. Didn't bother with study. Almost failed. Having friends and my own inner thoughts was everything. A true bubble.

I was highly vulnerable to conspiracy theories at that time. Luckily it was too early, before the worst ones came. But I was a 911 was an inside job believer and revelled in my own cleverness.

I guess things changed when I got a job and met normal grown adults and mixed more widely.

The NPD thing though... I still struggle with a deep urge inside me to hate everyone and everything. I am a victim who is somehow superior to everyone else. I struggle to keep friends, these days from keeping people away on purpose so I don't find opportunities to abuse them, but also people just know, I suspect, that I am not a nice person deep down.

I have spent a lot of time working on my empathy and critical thinking skills such that I believe I am now able, with enough time to filter out my gut instinct to dismiss and hate and ridicule, to turn my thoughts into something much more sympathetic, believing in other humans capabilities, respecting their freedoms. It is not instinctual and I do slip up but I have built good processes to get myself there eventually.

I think I understand these kids very well, and I am not very hopeful for them. They might figure it out as they go into the real world and realise they are a very very small minority to think this way. Then they just moce on with life (harder when you live in a bit city the bubble continues longer).

I think the Intervention forces needs to start young as pp said, forget the teens a d students. You cannot resolve this. NPD cannot really be cured. It is rare to understand you have it, because it is catastrophic to your psyche, and it was to mine. But pull through that and you can find a cure, I believe I have. Noone else will do it for you. They are lost, best ignored / the law applied to their actions. Focus on the little ones now, stop this from happening to another generation of outsiders. We need a way to focus the attention of the freaks and geeks and their hyper focused adhd type brains to avoid them heading to dark and toxic places.

I've very similar experiences in being at many kinds of protests and I completely agree. This is odd.

For example, I went at daytime to protest during the week after George Floyd was murdered and that kind of unhinged freak out wasn't happening. The nights were mayhem due to the looting and burning...not trying to minimize that...but the actual day protests didn't involve unhinged people shrieking and carrying on. Looting/property damage/burning cities after big protests is always wrong but it's different than these personal assaults against women.

This ⬆️. Same thing with academic libraries.